Thanks Joe, that makes sense you need two machines... Apple is too smart and would know.. etc.

Well then in Ventura, If I choose always include, then should solve the issue?

Trying to get my head around.. so currently, when you reply, it does not include the attachment (which is fine, why would I want to send the sender the attachment which they already have), but you are saying since does not include it, it wont even be there for me, on that original email I received from the sender to begin with..? Is just deletes poof. (if I get that correctly)... So until I have Ventura, you agree, you gotta be real diligent about downloading attachment before reply to anyone right?