thanks Joe, good info, as usual!

Ok, I'll think about going pro Malware bytes.

Still too confused on Pro Etrecheck, but that's their fault right?

When was Etra Check invented? I remember tech tools and ONyx etc, Etra Check is a kind of new Beast right? Something unique about it? What is it doing that those others don't do?

I will save this thread and do the Console rigamoral when I spot this and report back.

"Plume Router" I don't even want ask what that is! I get a free Modem / Router from ATT... I'm doubt they have even heard of it!