JOE, thanks, desktop/ laptop was not in preferences set to icloud, do I just changed that, and clicked sync now. So far after few mintues the message on my iphone that has long history on dektop but nothing on iphone sady has not changed. I wonder if it will.

But that was a good call. thanks.

(it's actually bringin stuff back from past that was delting off all device.. June, July etc. but good to have done...) Though weird in that the desktop and iphone have -- well now that i think about they have not been syncing.. The deleting of messages have not been dynamic now that i think about it -- wonder if this will improve on that.. hope so)