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Texts not syncing between iPhone and Mac (AGAIN)!
#62138 07/26/22 04:06 AM
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Today I had my iPhone at the cell place because of my battery problems. The repair guy was looking at different things on my phone trying to decide what might be taking the charge down. I wonder if he changed something. Because now the texts on my iPhone don't show up on my Mac and vice versa. I rebooted the Mac and the iPhone. I turned the iMessage app on and off on both devices. I signed out on both devices and back in. I don't know what else I can do.


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Re: Texts not syncing between iPhone and Mac (AGAIN)!
plantsower #62140 07/26/22 03:53 PM
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There are two message systems iMessage and MMS, if the text was from another Apple user it should be synched by default, however with telephone company MMS messages syncing does not automatically occur. A feature of Ventura and iOS/iPadOS 16 is the ability to sync both iMessages and MMS texts between devices and another setting has been added in Settings > Messages > Text Message to enable this.

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joemikeb #62143 07/26/22 05:06 PM
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Yes, I guess it's probably the non-Apple texts that don't always get through, though mostly they do. Sometimes I can't even send a text to a non-Apple user. Same person I always text everyday. I don't get it. I end up emailing her. And sometimes it says it can't be sent via text, but it sends anyway and she tells me she got it even though I thought I had to email her. I don't get that either. Anyway, I don't have Ventura so it's a moot point. Thank you though, Joe.

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There are two message systems iMessage and MMS, if the text was from another Apple user it should be synched by default, however with telephone company MMS messages syncing does not automatically occur. A feature of Ventura and iOS/iPadOS 16 is the ability to sync both iMessages and MMS texts between devices and another setting has been added in Settings > Messages > Text Message to enable this.


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plantsower #62219 07/31/22 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
Yes, I guess it's probably the non-Apple texts that don't always get through, though mostly they do. Sometimes I can't even send a text to a non-Apple user. Same person I always text everyday. I don't get it. I end up emailing her. And sometimes it says it can't be sent via text, but it sends anyway and she tells me she got it even though I thought I had to email her. I don't get that either. Anyway, I don't have Ventura so it's a moot point. Thank you though, Joe.

Apple's Message (née. iMessage) has always been responsible for identifying if a text message addressees were iMessage capable or not and appropriately routing it either through Apple's own internet-based system or the relatively primitive SMS/MMS telephone networks. As a result, iMessages would report when messages were delivered and opened, and see to it messages were synchronized among all the devices on the same Apple ID. In MacOS 13 (Ventura), iOS 16, and iPadOS 16, in so far as the limitations of the SMS/MMS system permit, Apple is using their servers to handle SMS/MMS traffic instead of dismissing them to the telephone network, thereby providing Apple users essentially the same experience for both iMessage and SMS/MMS traffic. Moreover, Apple provides the ability to cancel or edit messages, within I believe it is ten seconds of the message being sent.

In case you wonder what benefit, Apple gets out of this? It helps sell more Macs, iPhones, iPads, and Watches.


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joemikeb #62220 07/31/22 11:10 PM
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In MacOS 13 (Ventura), iOS 16, and iPadOS 16, in so far as the limitations of the SMS/MMS system permit, Apple is using their servers to handle SMS/MMS traffic instead of dismissing them to the telephone network, thereby providing Apple users essentially the same experience for both iMessage and SMS/MMS traffic. Moreover, Apple provides the ability to cancel or edit messages, within I believe it is ten seconds of the message being sent. Interesting, though I can't move that fast. How about 10 minutes?

In case you wonder what benefit, Apple gets out of this? It helps sell more Macs, iPhones, iPads, and Watches. [/quote] LOL!


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plantsower #62221 07/31/22 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
In MacOS 13 (Ventura), iOS 16, and iPadOS 16, in so far as the limitations of the SMS/MMS system permit, Apple is using their servers to handle SMS/MMS traffic instead of dismissing them to the telephone network, thereby providing Apple users essentially the same experience for both iMessage and SMS/MMS traffic. Moreover, Apple provides the ability to cancel or edit messages, within I believe it is ten seconds of the message being sent. Interesting, though I can't move that fast. How about 10 minutes?

I have the same question, but obviously the technology depends on holding the message on the Apple Server before sending it along to the recipient. My guess is: Apple feels 10 seconds is the maximum delay senders will tolerate, and it does provide a window, albeit a narrow window, of time to cancel or edit the text.


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joemikeb #62222 08/01/22 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by joemikeb
...in so far as the limitations of the SMS/MMS system permit, Apple is using their servers to handle SMS/MMS traffic instead of dismissing them to the telephone network, thereby providing Apple users essentially the same experience for both iMessage and SMS/MMS traffic.
I'm not clear on what that actually means.

It almost sounds like you're saying that we'll be able to text from our Apple devices to non-Apple devices without benefit of the telephone network, but I'm pretty sure that's just wishful thinking.


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joemikeb #62223 08/01/22 03:51 AM
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I have the same question, but obviously the technology depends on holding the message on the Apple Server before sending it along to the recipient. My guess is: Apple feels 10 seconds is the maximum delay senders will tolerate, and it does provide a window, albeit a narrow window, of time to cancel or edit the text. [/quote] "How about "Are you sure you want to send this?" Then we can rethink it or give us a choice of how long we want to think about it. Oh well.


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plantsower #62227 08/01/22 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
I have the same question, but obviously the technology depends on holding the message on the Apple Server before sending it along to the recipient. My guess is: Apple feels 10 seconds is the maximum delay senders will tolerate, and it does provide a window, albeit a narrow window, of time to cancel or edit the text.
"How about "Are you sure you want to send this?" Then we can rethink it or give us a choice of how long we want to think about it. Oh well. [/quote]

The next iOS upgrade will have a texting feature where you can "take back" the text you just sent or edit it; see here and elsewhere on the Internet. Apparently there will be time limitations on those, like after 15 minutes you can't cancel your text message.


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plantsower #62228 08/01/22 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by artie505
I'm not clear on what that actually means.

It almost sounds like you're saying that we'll be able to text from our Apple devices to non-Apple devices without benefit of the telephone network, but I'm pretty sure that's just wishful thinking.

SMS/MMS traffic still has to go into the telephone system to reach its intended recipient. There is no practical way around that.

Originally Posted by plantsower
"How about "Are you sure you want to send this?" Then we can rethink it or give us a choice of how long we want to think about it. Oh well.

But that would add one or more extra steps to sending every message, and I, and perhaps most people, would find that unacceptable.


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joemikeb #62229 08/01/22 04:57 PM
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Yes, but there should be a choice to disable that message or not. We need more choices other than the ones Apple decides to give us.

But that would add one or more extra steps to sending every message, and I, and perhaps most people, would find that unacceptable. [/quote]


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Ira L #62230 08/01/22 04:58 PM
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That sounds a lot better than 10 seconds which is barely enough time to react.

The next iOS upgrade will have a texting feature where you can "take back" the text you just sent or edit it; see here and elsewhere on the Internet. Apparently there will be time limitations on those, like after 15 minutes you can't cancel your text message. [/quote]


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