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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
joemikeb #59530 09/24/21 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by joemikeb
I do have one minor annoyance with Safari 15. When loading a site with both Show color in tab bar and compact tab layout on sites with a dark background the progress bar can be almost invisible making it difficult to determine if the page is loading or not. I could fix that either by turning off Show color in tab bar or switch to separate tab layout, but I want to have my cake and eat it too. 🙄
Personally, I disabled both of those options (they are not to my taste).


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59531 09/25/21 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jchuzi
Personally, I disabled both of those options (they are not to my taste).

…and that highlights a great feature of Safari, we can each tailor it to our individual taste.



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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59532 09/25/21 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jchuzi
Scroll down to the bottom of this Apple Discussions page for the link

So the bottom line is if you are having a problem reinstall Safari 15.0 (it is not a patch) and restart. All the posts at the link mentioned above (which provides a link to download Safari 15.0) say this fixed the problem.


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
Douglas #59533 09/25/21 08:20 PM
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Hello Douglas. your original issue is very similar to what I'm experiencing after a recent Sufari 15 "update". Any chance you could share the link to the "patch", Safari 15 (15612.1.29.41.4, 15612). Thanks

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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
MikeinANC #59534 09/26/21 04:36 PM
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Apologies for the delay, I had to search my Trash. I assumed Apple was going to post the fix. Anyway, here is the link they sent me. http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...o2g03y80pefij/Safari15.0CatalinaAuto.pkg

Re: Safari 15, reactions?
Douglas #59567 10/01/21 12:20 PM
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I noticed the following changes in Safari 15, compared to 14:

1. In Safari > Preferences > Passwords, the interface is different. If you want to view a password, you don't click the dots but simply hover the mouse over them. The password shows, but the background is dark, making it difficult to read (perhaps a security feature to make it harder for people looking over your shoulder?). Also, the Passwords preference window does not time out as it did in 14.

2. I have (actually, my wife) many pinned tabs. Opening several new, unpinned, tabs moves them aside so it is easier to see the tabs that are open. This solves an issue that I always had in 14. Of course, getting my wife to unpin tabs is slightly easier than achieving peace in the Middle East. The colors of the pinned tabs are brighter, making it easier to see them.

3. The open tab is now darkened, making it easier to determine which one is open.


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jchuzi #59568 10/01/21 05:12 PM
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You realize you can create tab groups so you and your wife can each have your own unique tab group that opens with a single click?



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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
joemikeb #59570 10/01/21 06:16 PM
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Yes, I realize that but haven't experimented with it yet.


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59573 10/01/21 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jchuzi
In Safari > Preferences > Passwords, the interface is different. If you want to view a password, you don't click the dots but simply hover the mouse over them.
I've still got to click on the dots. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
artie505 #59575 10/02/21 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by artie505
I've still got to click on the dots. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Specifically what is your version of Safari and the WebKit build number?



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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
joemikeb #59576 10/02/21 03:20 AM
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False alarm, sorry. Now it's Version 15.0 (16612.1.29.41.4, 16612).

I upgraded to Safari 15 when I first upgraded to Big Sur, and it didn't occur to me that reinstalling BS would take it back to 14.

Passwords works as Jon has described. I hate it!


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artie505 #59578 10/02/21 11:21 AM
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It may be more convoluted to use Keychain Access to view passwords, but that works as before. Passwords are much easier to read than in Safari Preferences.


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jchuzi #59579 10/02/21 11:27 AM
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I just spotted this: Apple delivers Safari 15.1 beta for macOS Big Sur and Catalina I have no other information about any changes to Safari.


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59580 10/02/21 12:13 PM
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Using Keychain Access is more convoluted than using Safari, but I could barely make out the passwords in Safari.


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artie505 #59582 10/02/21 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by artie505
Using Keychain Access is more convoluted than using Safari, but I could barely make out the passwords in Safari.
Maybe the upcoming update will fix this. confused


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jchuzi #59583 10/02/21 12:40 PM
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In my opinion, it certainly needs fixing, but I"m back in Catalina, so I don't have to worry about it until I dip my toe into Monterey.


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jchuzi #59584 10/02/21 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jchuzi
Originally Posted by artie505
Using Keychain Access is more convoluted than using Safari, but I could barely make out the passwords in Safari.
Maybe the upcoming update will fix this. confused

If Safari in Monterey beta 8 and Safari Technology Preview 15.4 are any indication, the dark background passwords aren't going away any time soon.



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jchuzi #59605 10/05/21 02:49 PM
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1. In Safari > Preferences > Passwords, the interface is different. If you want to view a password, you don't click the dots but simply hover the mouse over them. The password shows, but the background is dark, making it difficult to read (perhaps a security feature to make it harder for people looking over your shoulder?).
The problem with readability of passwords can be alleviated by going to System Preferences > Accessibility > Display and unchecking Increase contrast As it turns out, I prefer to increase contrast so, unless this becomes critical, I'll keep it that way.


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59606 10/05/21 06:16 PM
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Good catch, Jon!

Another victim of the law of unintended consequences 🤦🏻



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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
joemikeb #59673 10/21/21 11:36 AM
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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59678 10/21/21 10:32 PM
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I hope the traditional and compact designs will remain options as I found really like the compact tab layout.



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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
joemikeb #59680 10/22/21 11:53 AM
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I would guess that the compact tab layout will still be an option, judging by this quote from the article:
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Called "Separate," the traditional layout also removes the color tab bar feature, which has been relegated to the now optional "Compact" view.


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jchuzi #59695 10/24/21 09:38 AM
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Catalina 10.15.7/Safari version 15.0 (15612.1.29.41.4, 15612)... Captcha panes have stopped loading again. frown


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artie505 #59696 10/24/21 11:37 AM
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Two suggestions:

1. Turn off Content Blocking for the problem website.
2. Disable extensions via the Develop menu when you go to that website.


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Re: Safari 15, reactions?
jchuzi #59697 10/24/21 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jchuzi
Two suggestions:

1. Turn off Content Blocking for the problem website.
2. Disable extensions via the Develop menu when you go to that website.
Thanks, Jon.

I usually think of content blockers on my own...don't know why this time was different.

I can't test, though, because I logged in from Firefox, so it'll have to wait until it comes up again.


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