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#5718 - 11/09/09 07:20 PM First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2
JoBoy Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
I installed 10.6.2 Combo Update a few hours ago and have been trying all my apps on it. It's quick and smooth. I haven't had as much as a burp out of this baby. Safari seems very peppy. Web sites come up very quickly.

Anyone having problems?
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#5721 - 11/09/09 10:24 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: JoBoy]
macnerd10 Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Installed it too; no problem so far. Upon permissions repair, the only thing showing up is:
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
I guess, it can be disregarded.
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#5722 - 11/09/09 10:45 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: macnerd10]
JoBoy Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
I got the same message. I believe it's one of those "throw aways" that are there for reasons I don't fully understand.
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#5749 - 11/11/09 04:54 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: JoBoy]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
I had one minor glitch on one of our Macs but I honestly cannot say if it was the result of the update or merely a coincidence. Keynote presentations were not displaying correctly and some windows were outsized. The fix was to reset the display resolution to an odd size and then back to the correct size. But as I said, I cannot say definitively whether or not that was a result of the 10.6.2 update.
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#5763 - 11/11/09 04:24 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: JoBoy]
roger Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Vermont
no problems here.
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#5772 - 11/12/09 05:49 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: roger]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Georgetown, Texas, USA
Thanks for the counsel oh great sages.

When my machine returns from Apple, I'll do the install.

Alas, two days ago, my HD started making the dreaded clicking sound. And, of course, all went wacko from there. As to the warranty, I was three weeks out of date. Not to worry says Apple, the replacement is free. And, the old 250 GB HD is being replaced with a 320 GB. I would say "woot", but I am about 45 years beyond that, so I'll just sing their (Apple) praises.
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#5835 - 11/15/09 02:02 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: macnerd10]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: macnerd10
Installed it too; no problem so far. Upon permissions repair, the only thing showing up is:
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
I guess, it can be disregarded.

I got the same warning.

I recall getting something similar with 6.1 except that there were two of them. I had a clone of my drive so thought I'd risk trashing them and see what would happen on restart. Nada, so you may be right about disregarding the warning - although it'd be nice if terminology other than "Warning" could be used.

ryck
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#5837 - 11/15/09 03:01 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: ryck]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
I'd be interested to see what the various 10.6.2 machines represented in this thread produce for output, in response to this Terminal command:

pkgutil -v --file-info /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

Anyone? — That will list any incarnations of ARDAgent installed previously and currently in the OS (at least as far as Disk Utility will be able to discern), indicating which package it came from, as well as its SHA-1 digest value.

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#5839 - 11/15/09 03:36 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis

Anyone?

Sure....although I have no idea what you said. Following is what I got with only My-Name or MyName substituted.

I don't know if it's relevant but, being a Terminal novice (Gads, what a poor choice of words), I decided to make a clone first and I noticed that Super Duper ran somewhat faster than it normally does.

ryck

My-Names-imac:~ MyName$ pkgutil -v --file-info /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent
2009-11-15 15:23:37.769 pkgutil[485:903] PackageKit: *** Missing bundle identifier: /Library/Receipts/Flip4Mac QuickTime Components.pkg
2009-11-15 15:23:37.802 pkgutil[485:903] PackageKit: *** Missing bundle identifier: /Library/Receipts/Flip4Mac Web Plugins.pkg
volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
install-time: Tue Oct 13 13:24:46 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.RemoteDesktopClient
pkg-version: 3.3.1
install-time: Mon Oct 19 22:22:40 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )
My-Names-imac:~ MyName$
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#5842 - 11/15/09 03:49 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
JoBoy Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis

Anyone? — That will list any incarnations of ARDAgent installed previously and currently in the OS (at least as far as Disk Utility will be able to discern), indicating which package it came from, as well as its SHA-1 digest value.


Here's mine with identifying info left out:

volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
install-time: Mon Aug 31 16:54:37 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )
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#5850 - 11/15/09 05:13 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Here's mine, omitting several unrelated " *** Missing bundle identifier ..." messages:

volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
install-time: Wed Sep 9 18:35:40 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.4
install-time: Wed Feb 1 21:38:30 2006
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.RemoteDesktopClient
pkg-version: 3.3.1
install-time: Fri Aug 21 20:39:28 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

I don't see any SHA-1 data in there, nor any mention of SHA-1 in man pkgutil. Changing "--file-info" to "--file-info-plist" gives me not output at all (beyond the "missing bundle identifier" messages).

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#5851 - 11/15/09 05:53 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
MacManiac Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Paradise....on the central Ore...
...and mine:

volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
install-time: Sat Oct 31 21:16:01 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.RemoteDesktopClient
pkg-version: 3.3.1
install-time: Mon Sep 28 07:34:01 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

EDIT

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.

Permissions repair complete

(edited to add results of Disk Utility Repair Permissions...)



Edited by MacManiac (11/16/09 07:27 AM)
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#5853 - 11/15/09 07:58 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: MacManiac]
macnerd10 Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Mine is like Ryck's:

2009-11-15 19:55:45.776 pkgutil[1477:903] PackageKit: *** Missing bundle identifier: /Library/Receipts/Flip4Mac QuickTime Components.pkg
2009-11-15 19:55:45.829 pkgutil[1477:903] PackageKit: *** Missing bundle identifier: /Library/Receipts/Flip4Mac Web Plugins.pkg
volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
install-time: Mon Aug 31 22:23:44 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.RemoteDesktopClient
pkg-version: 3.3.1
install-time: Wed Sep 2 00:42:06 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )
myname-macbook-pro:~ myname$
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#5855 - 11/15/09 11:40 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: ganbustein]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: ganbustein
Here's mine, omitting several unrelated " *** Missing bundle identifier ..." messages:

volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.4
install-time: Wed Feb 1 21:38:30 2006
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

.

grin Oh no you didn't.

[also, if anyone *new* is going to jump in here... it helps to know whether or not permissions repair is "reporting" any Warning: SUID file verbiage.]

Originally Posted By: ganbustein
I don't see any SHA-1 data in there, nor any mention of SHA-1 in man pkgutil. Changing "--file-info" to "--file-info-plist" gives me not output at all (beyond the "missing bundle identifier" messages).

Well Sir, you're the one who introduced me to pkgutil... so this is all your fault. wink

As you well know, Leopard Lite (10.5) is loaded with that info. I'll post the last entry (of 9):
Code:
$ pkgutil -v --file-info /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent
     volume: /
       path: System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent


       pkgid: com.apple.pkg.update.os.10.5.8.combo
 pkg-version: 1.0.1.1191932192
install-time: Thu Sep  3 12:18:26 2009
         uid: 0 (root)
         gid: 0 (wheel)
        mode: 104755 (-rwsr-xr-x )
        sha1: <e5af66d2 8074b92e a70f4154 339ece31 e905e64b>

But you're right... from the looks of things in posts above, the digest is gone. So how then does Snowy determine "has been modified" now... via size and modification date??? [nah, i bet the info is still in there... hidden somewhere... we probably just need to hold down the *option* key now to see it. cool ]

--

EDIT(s): FWIW, the man pkgutil page in 10.5 doesn't "mention" SHA-1 (or sha1) either... but that's not too surprising, really. It's not as if companies (especially Apple) are about to reveal to the world all their inside stuff. I'm almost surprised that there *is* a man page for it, and that the binary resides in such an accessible location (like /usr/sbin/pkgutil), for us all to play around with it so easily. [What does whereis lsregister get us? Nothing... try locate]. I'm not even sure to what extent pkgutil is intended for developers. (Is it?) It's my *assumption* that /Library/Receipts/db/a.receiptdb was intended as an Apple-only area. [although... a recent Growl update did find its way in there.]


Edited by Hal Itosis (11/16/09 10:26 AM)

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#5856 - 11/16/09 12:16 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: macnerd10]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
@ macnerd10, MacManiac, ryck, and JoBoy...
Hey gang... Swell. Perfect. Thanks for all that.

Well, if that SHA-1 info is now hiding behind some option (or perhaps only available to DURP somehow?), or gone entirely... then my intended investigation is pretty much dead in the water.

Though... some info is still visible. I find this commonality to be a rather odd development:
Quote:
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )


Here's what 10.5 tracked...
Quote:
mode: 104755 (-rwsr-xr-x )

...which is what one would expect. I don't want to go into details at this hour, but i see some serious corners being cut. And -- as evidenced here (as well as elsewhere) by continued glitchy updates w.r.t. DURP reporting stuff we can no longer [properly] guess precisely where/when the boo-boo might be happening -- it would seem that even the "corner-cutting" bandages aren't too effective at this juncture. [i.e., instead of fixing the problem at its source, the approach seems to be more one of either masking the symptoms, or simply having DURP do less checking.]

--

I guess we'll just have to ride this one out in the dark. [Anyone remember all those "special permissions" messages in 10.4 that lasted an eternity? Or how about when DURP reported permissions in *decimal* -- e.g., 33261? crazy Gracious, it's almost as if there's some technician setting up these little foibles deliberately... and then just sitting back at his house, laughing at the results.]

Anyway, i feel certain Good Sir Ganbustein knows way more about this stuff than i do. My main motivation [since before OSX 10.4 even] is: i would like to see Disk Utility and its comrades (Installer.app, Software Update.app, etc) all work together and perform as impeccably as possible. I'm afraid 10.6 will not fulfill that desire.

Oh well... when does 10.7 come out then? [or, perhaps i should just learn the joys of lowered expectations.]


Edited by Hal Itosis (11/16/09 10:35 AM)

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#5864 - 11/16/09 07:29 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
MacManiac Offline
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FWIW, I went back and added in the DURP results on my earlier post....there were a bunch of minor permissions issues resolved on the first pass, and the SUID warning re: ARD was the only item that remained on the subsequent pass.
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#5876 - 11/16/09 05:42 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
roger Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Vermont
sorry I'm late, Hal. here's what I got on my 10.6.2 MacBook
Quote:
volume: /
path: /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.Essentials
pkg-version: 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
install-time: Sat Aug 29 09:25:33 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.RemoteDesktopClient
pkg-version: 3.3.1
install-time: Fri Aug 21 09:27:31 2009
uid: 0 (root)
gid: 0 (wheel)
mode: 4755 (?rwsr-xr-x )



and from permission repair:
Quote:
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.


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#5890 - 11/18/09 01:52 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
grin Oh no you didn't.

Oh yes I did!

Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
Well Sir, you're the one who introduced me to pkgutil... so this is all your fault. wink

Sorry about that. wink

Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
But you're right... from the looks of things in posts above, the digest is gone. So how then does Snowy determine "has been modified" now... via size and modification date??? [nah, i bet the info is still in there... hidden somewhere... we probably just need to hold down the *option* key now to see it. cool ]

You must have missed the memo about how the stepping stones got moved. You were probably still on vacation then. (That'll teach you. Step out of the room, and we'll keep right on playing without you.) Anyway, if you want to continue walking on water after you move to snow country, look for the stepping stones in /var/db/receipts.

Snow Leopard apparently got tired of people using Leopard, Tiger, or even Jaguar versions of Disk Utility to do permissions repair. The Snow Leopard installer guts /Library/Receipts/BSD.pkg (leaving only an empty folder) so that pre-Snow Leopard versions of Disk Utility think there's no OS on the disk. /Library/Receipts/db/a.receiptdb is no longer being updated.

Since you haven't taken the icy plunge yet, I list here one of those stepping stones:

defaults read /var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Essentials
Code:
{
    InstallDate = "2009-09-09 18:35:40 -0700";
    InstallPrefixPath = "/";
    InstallProcessName = "Mac OS X Installer";
    PackageFileName = "Essentials.pkg";
    PackageGroups =     (
        "com.apple.snowleopard-repair-permissions.pkg-group",
        "com.apple.FindSystemFiles.pkg-group"
    );
    PackageIdentifier = "com.apple.pkg.Essentials";
    PackageVersion = "10.6.0.1.1.1249291854";
    PathACLs =     {
        Applications = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        "Applications/Utilities" = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        Library = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Desktop" = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Documents" = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Downloads" = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library" = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        "System/Library/User Template/English.lproj/Library/Application Support" = "!#acl 1\\ngroup:ABCDEFAB-CDEF-ABCD-EFAB-CDEF0000000C:everyone:12:deny:delete\\n";
        .
        . (lots more like that, elided for brevity)
        .
    };
    PathSHA1Checksums =     {
        "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" = <cffc33a1 b351a828 36c2b44a cd7a6f00 033893c3>;
        "System/Library/Printers/IOMs/LPRIOM.plugin/Contents/MacOS/LPRIOMHelper" = <75bff4bc cf6663e2 b523c8cc ae8b101f 67764c69>;
        "usr/bin/login" = <4b5223b3 19d15a54 49ea0737 bbecfc03 23cc01eb>;
        "usr/lib/sa/sadc" = <ba93ea4d 55bed2ee 37a80fad f7ba2df3 942a805d>;
        "usr/libexec/authopen" = <6cba773c c0ab23fa 26616b2d 6df87d4d ec2e9339>;
        "usr/libexec/chkpasswd" = <0c49734a 4f6c23a1 b1337893 31ae4ca2 bd6d5809>;
        "usr/libexec/security_authtrampoline" = <fa8672d1 4ba075d0 736c73af cc0f4441 dbafec40>;
    };
}


Enjoy!

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#5891 - 11/18/09 02:13 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: ganbustein]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Just so you'll know: that's apparently the only checksum for ARDAgent, even though I'm now on 10.6.2:

find /var/db/receipts -name '*.plist' | while read x; do defaults read "${x%%.plist}" | grep ARDAgent && echo $VT_BOLD$x$VT_NORMAL; done
"System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" = <cffc33a1 b351a828 36c2b44a cd7a6f00 033893c3>;
/var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Essentials.plist


In /var/db/receipts, next to each packagename.plist is the corresponding packagename.bom, which is presumably where the raw permissions can be found. There are no other files in the folder; that is, nothing like a.receiptsdb.

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#5901 - 11/18/09 10:12 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: ganbustein]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: ganbustein
Anyway, if you want to continue walking on water after you move to snow country, look for the stepping stones in /var/db/receipts.

Ouch. Now that i see it in print, i recall that MicroMatTech3 did pass that information along in a (mid-September?) thread, but -- since i've haven't entered the Snowy landscape yet -- i totally forgot the fact. Sincere apologizes all around.


Originally Posted By: ganbustein
I list here one of those stepping stones:
defaults read /var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Essentials
<snip>
"System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" = <cffc33a1 b351a828 36c2b44a cd7a6f00 033893c3>;

</snip>

Wow, thanks. [plists eh?... it all looks yummy.]


Originally Posted By: ganbustein
Just so you'll know: that's apparently the only checksum for ARDAgent, even though I'm now on 10.6.2:

find /var/db/receipts -name '*.plist' | while read x; do defaults read "${x%%.plist}" | grep ARDAgent && echo $VT_BOLD$x$VT_NORMAL; done
"System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" = <cffc33a1 b351a828 36c2b44a cd7a6f00 033893c3>;
/var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Essentials.plist


In /var/db/receipts, next to each packagename.plist is the corresponding packagename.bom, which is presumably where the raw permissions can be found. There are no other files in the folder; that is, nothing like a.receiptsdb.

Okay cool. Hmm, so -- if we were to try and dig deeper into the "how/why does the DURP warning come about?" question -- the next step might be to at least have a look at what sort of checksums folks are sporting on that file now:

openssl sha1 /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

Or perhaps you have some idea already [?]. My guess is (obvious i suppose) that some subsequent update (prolly 10.6.2) installed a tweaked version of ARDAgent, and (as with 10.5) it simply didn't put the latest digest value somewhere that DURP could "see" it. But why not?

mad

It does seem that -- despite the relocated receipt info -- the exact same problem has followed along from 10.5 to 10.6 . . . so then it's probably something they have in common. [i think peeking into some of the postflight installer scripts might provide a clue perhaps. idunno, maybe.]

-+-

I imagine folks would also get a "valid on disk" reply to this as well:

codesign -vvv /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app

I.e., everything is just fine... and everyone except DURP knows it. crazy


Edited by Hal Itosis (11/18/09 10:32 AM)
Edit Reason: more speculation

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#5906 - 11/18/09 11:50 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
Now that i see it in print, i recall that MicroMatTech3 did pass that information along in a (mid-September?) thread, but -- since i've haven't entered the Snowy landscape yet -- i totally forgot the fact.

I had forgotten too, actually, until you nudged me. I've given up on DURP as a (for the time being) lost cause. I don't think I've ever run it under Snow Leopard.

Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
My guess is (obvious i suppose) that some subsequent update (prolly 10.6.2) installed a tweaked version of ARDAgent, and (as with 10.5) it simply didn't put the latest digest value somewhere that DURP could "see" it. But why not?

mad

It does seem that -- despite the relocated receipt info -- the exact same problem has followed along from 10.5 to 10.6 . . . so then it's probably something they have in common.

And that's why I've given up on DURP. It's on my "just don't do that" list.

Some output you may find of interest:

VT_BOLD=$'\E[1m'
VT_NORMAL=$'\E[0m'
find /var/db/receipts -name '*.bom' | while read x; do lsbom "$x" | grep MacOS/ARDAgent && echo $VT_BOLD$x$VT_NORMAL; done

./System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent 104755 0/0 1676800 4158722535
/var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.Essentials.bom


codesign -vvv /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app
/System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app: valid on disk
/System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app: satisfies its Designated Requirement


openssl sha1 /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent

SHA1(/System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent)= e5af66d28074b92ea70f4154339ece31e905e64b

ls -lOe /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 2528064 Aug 10 18:04 /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent


Notice that the modify date (Aug 10) predates the day I installed Snow Leopard (Sep 9).

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#5907 - 11/18/09 11:55 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: ganbustein]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: ganbustein

find /var/db/receipts -name '*.bom' | while read x; do lsbom "$x" | grep MacOS/ARDAgent && echo $VT_BOLD$x$VT_NORMAL; done

DURN YOU!!! smile ... i was just this second typing up a post suggesting a similar lsbom/grep scrubbing...


echo; find /var/db/receipts -name '*.bom' |
while read x; do if lsbom -p MUGsf "$x" |
grep 'ARDAgent$'; then echo "$x"; echo; fi; done




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#5908 - 11/18/09 12:01 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: Hal Itosis]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
DURN YOU!!! smile ... i was just this second typing up a post suggesting a similar lsbom/grep scrubbing...


echo; find /var/db/receipts -name '*.bom' |
while read x; do if lsbom -p MUGsf "$x" |
grep 'ARDAgent$'; then echo "$x"; echo; fi; done




Same output as what I posted, except for spelling out 0/0 as "root wheel" and omitting the 32-bit CRC checksum.

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#5909 - 11/18/09 12:10 PM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: ganbustein]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
One more tidbit, FYI...
Originally Posted By: ganbustein
The Snow Leopard installer guts /Library/Receipts/BSD.pkg (leaving only an empty folder) so that pre-Snow Leopard versions of Disk Utility think there's no OS on the disk.

Hate to bust that theory, but i first noticed that BSD package was gutted sometime in 2008. Here is my (Leopard 10.5.8) rendition of that item:

$ ls -laR /Library/Receipts/BSD.pkg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 0 Nov 29 2007 /Library/Receipts/BSD.pkg

It's an empty file!!! shocked [perhaps that was something Leopard did to distract Tiger?]


Originally Posted By: ganbustein
Same output as what I posted, except for spelling out 0/0 as "root wheel" and omitting the 32-bit CRC checksum.


>>> /Library/Receipts/db/a.receiptdb is no longer being updated.

Okay... but just for grins, please run it [lsbom|grep] on the old /Library/Receipts folder. If anything relevant [recent] pops up, post back. Other than that, mount the 10.6.2 dmg and poke through that package [with Pacifist i suppose, unless expanding the whole thing into /tmp sounds tempting]. A match to that e5af66d28074b92ea70f4154339ece31e905e64b digest must be somewhere.

cool cool OTHER THAN MY POST #5855 THAT IS cool cool
<e5af66d2 8074b92e a70f4154 339ece31 e905e64b>
See that? -- Your current "Snow Leopard" ARDAgent is identical to the one i have from 10.5.8 !!!

-- so what is that telling us?
-- do you guys have the right ARDAgent or not??
-- if so, how could Snowy *not* know that???

[if DURP can't get this stuff right, should we trust it for *anything*?]


Edited by Hal Itosis (11/18/09 12:40 PM)

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#5928 - 11/19/09 12:12 AM Re: First impressions of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 [Re: JoBoy]
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Has anybody noticed whether "SnapBack" has been restored to Safari yet?

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