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#56073 09/07/20 05:17 PM
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Now that I have Catalina downloaded, you said I may have a question about a folder on my desktop. I do. It says Relocated Items. When trying to open them I get the message "No application set to open the document. Can I ditch it to trash?

Also, I curiously looked at my new HD with D/U. It shows 11.09 gigabytes in use, other volumes 27.71 and 82.19 GB free. What is using the 27.71 GB other than Catalina? My apps? Thanks.


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Re: Disk Utility
plantsower #56076 09/07/20 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
Now that I have Catalina downloaded, you said I may have a question about a folder on my desktop. I do. It says Relocated Items. When trying to open them I get the message "No application set to open the document. Can I ditch it to trash?

Also, I curiously looked at my new HD with D/U. It shows 11.09 gigabytes in use, other volumes 27.71 and 82.19 GB free. What is using the 27.71 GB other than Catalina? My apps? Thanks.

It depends upon what's in that folder. I've found it to almost exclusively contain stuff that can be safely trashed, BUT one time the file with all my stored passwords was in it...and I trashed it without thinking. frown

The 11 GB sounds like your system volume, and the 28 GB volume is your data volume.


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artie505 #56078 09/07/20 05:54 PM
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It depends upon what's in that folder. I've found it to almost exclusively contain stuff that can be safely trashed, BUT one time the file with all my stored passwords was in it...and I trashed it without thinking. frown Yikes! I don't see any passwords or anything I can relate to, but I will leave it unless JoeMike says I can trash it.

The 11 GB sounds like your system volume, and the 28 GB volume is your data volume. [/quote]. Hmmm, ok. I won't mess with it. In fact I am tired of messing with my Mac's innards. Hopefully, I can keep my hands out of its deep recesses for awhile. I don't know why I feel the need to do all that. It just gets me in trouble.


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Re: Disk Utility
plantsower #56079 09/07/20 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
I don't know why I feel the need to do all that. It just gets me in trouble.

I get myself into trouble for the experience of getting out of it. grin


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artie505 #56080 09/07/20 06:33 PM
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OK, just keep on with what you are doing. I probably benefit from your mistakes as my younger son did with his older brother's mistakes! Thanks for being so avant-garde! smile





Originally Posted by artie505
Originally Posted by plantsower
I don't know why I feel the need to do all that. It just gets me in trouble.

I get myself into trouble for the experience of getting out of it. grin


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plantsower #56082 09/07/20 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
Originally Posted by artie505
It depends upon what's in that folder. I've found it to almost exclusively contain stuff that can be safely trashed, BUT one time the file with all my stored passwords was in it...and I trashed it without thinking. frown
Yikes! I don't see any passwords or anything I can relate to, but I will leave it unless JoeMike says I can trash it.

I'm with Artie on that. If you look closely at the item on your desktop, it is NOT the actual folder but an alias of the real folder that is buried somewhere deep in the bowels of your system. I used to right-click (⌘+click) on the alias, select Show Original, navigate from there to the original folder, delete it, then delete the alias. Now I just delete the alias and let it go at that.

Originally Posted by plantsower
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The 11 GB sounds like your system volume, and the 28 GB volume is your data volume.
. Hmmm, ok. I won't mess with it. In fact I am tired of messing with my Mac's innards. Hopefully, I can keep my hands out of its deep recesses for awhile. I don't know why I feel the need to do all that. It just gets me in trouble.

My advice to you is don't worry about that kind of thing until you are comfortable with the day-to-day operation of Catalina and have everything running smoothly. Then, say in another month or two, and if you are interested, we can get into a discussion of how Catalina is organized and at least some of the "why". In fact, there are four other volumes on your internal drive, only two of which you can see without special software. In the meantime, focus on Macintosh HD - Data is the only thing you need to worry about and the only one you have write access to. (Big Sur adds even more constraints.)


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artie505 #56083 09/07/20 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by artie505
It depends upon what's in that folder. I've found it to almost exclusively contain stuff that can be safely trashed, BUT one time the file with all my stored passwords was in it...and I trashed it without thinking.
I have the alias of that folder on my desktop. The original is in ~/Shared/Relocated Items. When I dig down into that folder, I see Configuration/private/etc/master.passwd.system_default as well as Configuration/private/etc/postfix/main.cf.system_default. As with joemikeb, I'm not trashing any of it except the alias that resides on the desktop.


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jchuzi #56086 09/07/20 08:49 PM
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Thank you. I just did that. The less stuff on my Mac the better.


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Originally Posted by artie505
It depends upon what's in that folder. I've found it to almost exclusively contain stuff that can be safely trashed, BUT one time the file with all my stored passwords was in it...and I trashed it without thinking.
I have the alias of that folder on my desktop. The original is in ~/Shared/Relocated Items. When I dig down into that folder, I see Configuration/private/etc/master.passwd.system_default as well as Configuration/private/etc/postfix/main.cf.system_default. As with joemikeb, I'm not trashing any of it except the alias that resides on the desktop.


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