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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
joemikeb #54270 04/23/20 03:41 AM
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OK, so versions are irrelevant in this instance.

At least I now know how to avoid the freezes.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #54296 04/24/20 02:37 AM
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Has it occurred to anyone that due to the current pandemic, everyone is sitting at home glued to the Internet, and the ISP's and webhosts may be seriously overloaded, thus causing all kinds of strange problems? So, it may not be your browser that's acting up.

BTW, I gave up on Safari a couple of years ago when I found that Firefox was vastly improved after they did a complete rewrite of the Mac version.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
Bob_00001 #54298 04/24/20 03:14 AM
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No, this is completely removed from what you're speculating.

I'm not experiencing beach-balling or other freezes all over the Internet, rather I"m experiencing specific, reproducible freezes in only three situations, all of which I'll erroneously call "interactive."

Here on the FTM posting form I lose the ability to click within the box and on "Submit" and "Preview Post."

At New York City, NY 10-Day Weather Forecast the time of day slider and clickable items stop working.

At COVID-19: Daily Voice's Interactive Map Of NYC Metro Area Cases I lose the ability to manipulate the map and click within it.

And as I said both here and earlier, this is 100% reproducible, which automatically eliminates random ISP and server overloads from possible culpability. And the Safari issue, which is the first one I noticed, predates the lockdowns anyhow.

I'm fine with Safari; it works exactly as I like, as opposed to Firefox which makes me jump through hoops to accomplish even simple stuff that I can do easily with Safari. And Firefox's prefs give me nightmares.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #54302 04/24/20 10:59 AM
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I hadn't thought about it, but I have occasional freezes when I play Tiles at https://www.nytimes.com/puzzles/tiles I have been doing this for amusement and the issue occurs sporadically if I spend some time thinking before clicking. Then, it seems to resolve itself. This is the only instance that I can recall. (No spinning beachball; the site simply becomes unresponsive to clicking.)

I use Firefox once in awhile, but Safari does everything that I want. Maybe I could tweak Firefox to customize it, but I see no compelling reason to do so.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
jchuzi #54303 04/24/20 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
I hadn't thought about it, but I have occasional freezes when I play Tiles at https://www.nytimes.com/puzzles/tiles

That's it, Jon.

I followed your link, and the freeze is exactly what I've been experiencing.

It happens only in a precise set of circumstances.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #54304 04/24/20 02:05 PM
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FWIW, I am not encountering any freezes playing the tiles game on Safari Technology Preview Release 104 (Safari 13.2, WebKit 15610.1.8.3) or Firefox 74.0.

Within minutes of posting that a Safari Technology Preview update was announced. It is now Release 105 (Safari 13.2, WebKit 15610.1.10)

Last edited by joemikeb; 04/24/20 09:19 PM. Reason: new release

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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
joemikeb #54305 04/24/20 02:48 PM
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Now that I understand what's happening and can avoid it I can live with it, but fingers crossed for Safari itself all the same.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #55289 07/20/20 04:55 PM
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It appears that the issue has finally been corrected in 10.15.6.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #55541 08/02/20 11:21 PM
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Spoke too soon.

I THINK it happens less often, but it DOES still happen. frown


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #55543 08/03/20 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: artie505
Spoke too soon.

I THINK it happens less often, but it DOES still happen. frown
That is my experience as well. It seems to take a longer pause on my part before it freezes, but I have not measured this objectively.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
jchuzi #55544 08/03/20 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Originally Posted By: artie505
Spoke too soon.

I THINK it happens less often, but it DOES still happen. frown
That is my experience as well. It seems to take a longer pause on my part before it freezes, but I have not measured this objectively.

I'll say that it definitely does take a longer pause before it happens, which is why it took me a while to notice it.


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #56201 09/18/20 06:57 AM
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I'll go out on a limb...again and say that it looks like the freezes have been banished from Safari 14.0 smile cool


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Re: Safari freezes anyone?
artie505 #56209 09/20/20 11:16 PM
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So far, so good for me too. cool


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