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#54191 - 04/20/20 10:01 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
So you don't think it could be an old router problem?

So, if I download Mojave or Catalina in my erased Mavericks partition, it will leave Sierra alone and not upgrade it? That's how it works?

What do you mean I can erase it from one of my Sierra volumes? Wouldn't a Sierra volume just have Sierra on it? Do you mean erase it from my internal hard drive and not my external drive? Mavericks is only on my external drive. confused


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Done. No dice!

And no surprise. frown

The only thing I can think of at this point is for you to d/l Mojave or Catalina, but don't use it to upgrade your Sierra. Just install it, and without migrating any data or changing it in any way see if Amazon works in the default installation. (You can use your Mavericks partition; just erase it in Disk Utility first. You can erase it only from one of your Sierra volumes.)

It may not work, but it will eliminate a possibility if it doesn't, and if it does, we can run with it from there.
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#54193 - 04/20/20 10:28 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
So you don't think it could be an old router problem?

So, if I download Mojave or Catalina in my erased Mavericks partition, it will leave Sierra alone and not upgrade it? That's how it works?

What do you mean I can erase it from one of my Sierra volumes? Wouldn't a Sierra volume just have Sierra on it? Do you mean erase it from my internal hard drive and not my external drive? Mavericks is only on my external drive. confused

I've got no expertise, not even a little bit of amateurise, in routers, but as I see it, the problem is too narrowly defined to be a router issue. Ira just responded negatively in your other post, and joemike, whom I'd call our local expert in this sort of stuff, hasn't contributed, so your router is probably not at issue.

The Mojave and Catalina installers can be run in two ways: they can either upGRADE your Sierra volume or they can do a CLEAN INSTALLATION. You want to do the latter.
  • Connect your external drive.
  • Boot into either Sierra volume.
  • Navigate to /System/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app.
  • Select the Mavericks partition in DU's sidebar.
  • Hit "Erase," follow the prompts, and name the newly erased volume either Mojave or Catalina.
  • Quit Disk Utility.
  • Download whichever of the OSs you decide to install. (The d/l'ed installer will go to /Applications.)
  • Launch the installer and follow the prompts to the pane that tells you the default installation destination and offers you an option to change destinations.
  • Select the volume you just erased and renamed. (You do NOT want to install on either Sierra volume!)
  • Hit the "Start" button, and when the process is complete you'll have a pristine, vanilla, untouched by human hands installation.
  • Try Amazon.
  • Report success. tongue
I think that answers all of your questions.
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#54194 - 04/20/20 10:55 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 09/13/09
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Artie: You answered all but two questions: Again, what do you mean by Sierra Volume? I've got two partitions with different Sierras and one with Mavericks on my extended HD. They are all volumes, right??? I understand that I am to erase Mavericks and install M or C onto it and rename it, and not install M or C onto one of my Sierra partitions. So, when you say "boot into the Sierra Volume" do mean just connect my extended HD and go to Mavericks partition? Sorry, but I'm having problems with the wording as I know I am not to disturb either one of my Sierras since I want a clean install. Actually, I don't need Sierra 2012 for sure.

Also, if I do a clean install on my external drive and I like it, I should do likewise on my internal drive into a partition named M or C, correct? Unless I want to integrate all my stuff that is in Sierra. Can't you just come here and do it for me? smirk If you are getting frustrated with my unending questions,, sic someone else on me. smile This is a little (or a lot) beyond my pay grade. I do have the instructions JoeMike sent me on how to install Catalina onto my internal HD. OK, I wore myself out!

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1: When you say Sierra Volume
Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
So you don't think it could be an old router problem?

So, if I download Mojave or Catalina in my erased Mavericks partition, it will leave Sierra alone and not upgrade it? That's how it works?

What do you mean I can erase it from one of my Sierra volumes? Wouldn't a Sierra volume just have Sierra on it? Do you mean erase it from my internal hard drive and not my external drive? Mavericks is only on my external drive. confused

I've got no expertise, not even a little bit of amateurise, in routers, but as I see it, the problem is too narrowly defined to be a router issue. Ira just responded negatively in your other post, and joemike, whom I'd call our local expert in this sort of stuff, hasn't contributed, so your router is probably not at issue.

The Mojave and Catalina installers can be run in two ways: they can either upGRADE your Sierra volume or they can do a CLEAN INSTALLATION. You want to do the latter.
  • Connect your external drive.
  • Boot into either Sierra volume.
  • Navigate to /System/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app.
  • Select the Mavericks partition in DU's sidebar.
  • Hit "Erase," follow the prompts, and name the newly erased volume either Mojave or Catalina.
  • Quit Disk Utility.
  • Download whichever of the OSs you decide to install. (The d/l'ed installer will go to /Applications.)
  • Launch the installer and follow the prompts to the pane that tells you the default installation destination and offers you an option to change destinations.
  • Select the volume you just erased and renamed. (You do NOT want to install on either Sierra volume!)
  • Hit the "Start" button, and when the process is complete you'll have a pristine, vanilla, untouched by human hands installation.
  • Try Amazon.
  • Report success. tongue
I think that answers all of your questions.
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#54195 - 04/20/20 11:14 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Artie: You answered all but two questions: Again, what do you mean by Sierra Volume? I've got two partitions with different Sierras and one with Mavericks on my extended HD. They are all volumes, right??? I understand that I am to erase Mavericks and install M or C onto it and rename it, and not install M or C onto one of my Sierra partitions. So, when you say "boot into the Sierra Volume" do mean just connect my extended HD and go to Mavericks partition? Sorry, but I'm having problems with the wording as I know I am not to disturb either one of my Sierras since I want a clean install. Actually, I don't need Sierra 2012 for sure.

Also, if I do a clean install on my external drive and I like it, I should do likewise on my internal drive into a partition named M or C, correct? Unless I want to integrate all my stuff that is in Sierra. Can't you just come here and do it for me? smirk If you are getting frustrated with my unending questions,, sic someone else on me. smile This is a little (or a lot) beyond my pay grade. I do have the instructions JoeMike sent me on how to install Catalina onto my internal HD. OK, I wore myself out!

First, volume and partition are the same for these purposes.

You can't do a clean installation on the Mavericks partition (volume) as it stands; you've got to erase it first, and you can only do that while you're booted into one of your Sierra partitions - It doesn't matter which one. - while your external is connected.

If this works and you can navigate Amazon successfully from your pristine M/C installation, then we'll discuss what to do next.

Goodness, Rita! You've got it backwards. Thank you for coming up with a time-consuming problem when I've got altogether too much time on my hands. smile

Goin' back to sleep now. shocked
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#54196 - 04/20/20 12:16 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Glad to help with all that time on your hands!!! LOL! I still don't get the part about booting into Sierra when I have a Mavericks partition, but I will try to follow instructions....only don't hold your breath with this one, it may take me some time.



Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Artie: You answered all but two questions: Again, what do you mean by Sierra Volume? I've got two partitions with different Sierras and one with Mavericks on my extended HD. They are all volumes, right??? I understand that I am to erase Mavericks and install M or C onto it and rename it, and not install M or C onto one of my Sierra partitions. So, when you say "boot into the Sierra Volume" do mean just connect my extended HD and go to Mavericks partition? Sorry, but I'm having problems with the wording as I know I am not to disturb either one of my Sierras since I want a clean install. Actually, I don't need Sierra 2012 for sure.

Also, if I do a clean install on my external drive and I like it, I should do likewise on my internal drive into a partition named M or C, correct? Unless I want to integrate all my stuff that is in Sierra. Can't you just come here and do it for me? smirk If you are getting frustrated with my unending questions,, sic someone else on me. smile This is a little (or a lot) beyond my pay grade. I do have the instructions JoeMike sent me on how to install Catalina onto my internal HD. OK, I wore myself out!

First, volume and partition are the same for these purposes.

You can't do a clean installation on the Mavericks partition (volume) as it stands; you've got to erase it first, and you can only do that while you're booted into one of your Sierra partitions - It doesn't matter which one. - while your external is connected.

If this works and you can navigate Amazon successfully from your pristine M/C installation, then we'll discuss what to do next.

Goodness, Rita! You've got it backwards. Thank you for coming up with a time-consuming problem when I've got altogether too much time on my hands. smile

Goin' back to sleep now. shocked
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#54199 - 04/20/20 02:23 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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I don't want to interfere with Artie's guiding your through the Catalina trial, after all I have been encouraging you to install it all along 🙄, but another possible source of interference has occurred to me.

In System Preferences > Network select WiFi in the sidebar then click the Advanced tab near the bottom right of the window. In that window click on the tab labeled DNS at the top of the window. Then in the DNS Servers pane there should be at least one string of numbers like nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (they may be greyed out)

What are those numbers?
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#54200 - 04/20/20 02:30 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
OMG! I just got it. Why did it take so long? I can't boot from Mavericks because if I did, I wouldn't be able to erase it! Yikes. I need to rest my brain. Or maybe it needs to wake up! Cripes! I know you are probably slapping your forehead but so am I!


Originally Posted By: plantsower
Glad to help with all that time on your hands!!! LOL! I still don't get the part about booting into Sierra when I have a Mavericks partition, but I will try to follow instructions....only don't hold your breath with this one, it may take me some time.



Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Artie: You answered all but two questions: Again, what do you mean by Sierra Volume? I've got two partitions with different Sierras and one with Mavericks on my extended HD. They are all volumes, right??? I understand that I am to erase Mavericks and install M or C onto it and rename it, and not install M or C onto one of my Sierra partitions. So, when you say "boot into the Sierra Volume" do mean just connect my extended HD and go to Mavericks partition? Sorry, but I'm having problems with the wording as I know I am not to disturb either one of my Sierras since I want a clean install. Actually, I don't need Sierra 2012 for sure.

Also, if I do a clean install on my external drive and I like it, I should do likewise on my internal drive into a partition named M or C, correct? Unless I want to integrate all my stuff that is in Sierra. Can't you just come here and do it for me? smirk If you are getting frustrated with my unending questions,, sic someone else on me. smile This is a little (or a lot) beyond my pay grade. I do have the instructions JoeMike sent me on how to install Catalina onto my internal HD. OK, I wore myself out!

First, volume and partition are the same for these purposes.

You can't do a clean installation on the Mavericks partition (volume) as it stands; you've got to erase it first, and you can only do that while you're booted into one of your Sierra partitions - It doesn't matter which one. - while your external is connected.

If this works and you can navigate Amazon successfully from your pristine M/C installation, then we'll discuss what to do next.

Goodness, Rita! You've got it backwards. Thank you for coming up with a time-consuming problem when I've got altogether too much time on my hands. smile

Goin' back to sleep now. shocked
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#54201 - 04/20/20 02:44 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: joemikeb]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
The DNS numbers are not grayed out. They are 192.168.2.1. That's weird. Why would my IP address show up under my DNS tab? I do have a DNS program that is supposed to protect my smart TV like a VPN does. I've had it quite awhile and it never caused this.

Update:

I neglected to say that I have the same DNS program on my computer, so that may make more sense. I added the 8.8.8.8 dns number but no difference.

I just checked some other sites' reviews and I am having some of the same problems. Before that wasn't so. confused





Originally Posted By: joemikeb
I don't want to interfere with Artie's guiding your through the Catalina trial, after all I have been encouraging you to install it all along 🙄, but another possible source of interference has occurred to me.

In System Preferences > Network select WiFi in the sidebar then click the Advanced tab near the bottom right of the window. In that window click on the tab labeled DNS at the top of the window. Then in the DNS Servers pane there should be at least one string of numbers like nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (they may be greyed out)

What are those numbers?


Edited by plantsower (04/20/20 05:48 PM)
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#54202 - 04/20/20 02:58 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
OMG! I just got it. Why did it take so long? I can't boot from Mavericks because if I did, I wouldn't be able to erase it!

By George, she's got it! grin
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#54203 - 04/20/20 03:17 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Well, guess what? I connected my ext. HD and went into Sierra 2012. It was as if it was Sierra 2015. Same OS stats, etc. So I went out and booted into Mavericks just to see if About my Mac would mention Mavericks. Before I got a chance to do that, after I booted into Mavericks, and all I got was a blank page with a circle with a line through it. The only way out was to reboot! I guess maybe I will go into Sierra and see if I can erase Sierra 2012 and go from there. I'm to brain tired to do it now. Wish me luck.

******


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
OMG! I just got it. Why did it take so long? I can't boot from Mavericks because if I did, I wouldn't be able to erase it!

By George, she's got it! grin
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#54205 - 04/20/20 03:38 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Well, guess what? I connected my ext. HD and went into Sierra 2012. It was as if it was Sierra 2015. Same OS stats, etc. So I went out and booted into Mavericks just to see if About my Mac would mention Mavericks. Before I got a chance to do that, after I booted into Mavericks, and all I got was a blank page with a circle with a line through it. The only way out was to reboot! I guess maybe I will go into Sierra and see if I can erase Sierra 2012 and go from there. I'm to brain tired to do it now. Wish me luck.

That circle with a line through it was a prohibited sign. confused (Can you still boot into the Sierra partition on your external?)

I don't know what's going on with your external, so I'd erase it totally and reformat it HFS+ with two partitions, one for a new clone of your latest Sierra and the second to install Mojave/Catalina, but before either cloning or installing I"d go into Disk Utility and run Repair Disk on the drive just to make sure that it hasn't got any evident problems.

Got my fingers crossed for you.
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#54207 - 04/20/20 05:10 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Thx for the finger crossing! Yeah, like I said. I went into Sierra 2012 but it looked just like Sierra 2015. I will attempt erasing everything. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Well, guess what? I connected my ext. HD and went into Sierra 2012. It was as if it was Sierra 2015. Same OS stats, etc. So I went out and booted into Mavericks just to see if About my Mac would mention Mavericks. Before I got a chance to do that, after I booted into Mavericks, and all I got was a blank page with a circle with a line through it. The only way out was to reboot! I guess maybe I will go into Sierra and see if I can erase Sierra 2012 and go from there. I'm to brain tired to do it now. Wish me luck.

That circle with a line through it was a prohibited sign. confused (Can you still boot into the Sierra partition on your external?)

I don't know what's going on with your external, so I'd erase it totally and reformat it HFS+ with two partitions, one for a new clone of your latest Sierra and the second to install Mojave/Catalina, but before either cloning or installing I"d go into Disk Utility and run Repair disk on the drive just to make sure that it hasn't got any evident problems.

Got my fingers crossed for you.
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#54208 - 04/20/20 05:12 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
The DNS numbers are not grayed out. They are 192.168.2.1. That's weird. Why would my IP address show up under my DNS tab?

I found my IP address there once and never figured out how it got there, but a bit of research taught that it's neither extraordinary nor bad.

I replaced it with both Open DNS and Google numbers, but I"ll let joemike go there.
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#54209 - 04/20/20 05:17 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I went into Sierra 2012 but it looked just like Sierra 2015.

I think you ought to do a bit of research and find out where iCloud settings are in Sierra 2015 and make sure it's not turned on before you start installing and cloning.

Getting back to dkmarsh's thought, your external is behaving as if it is.

More: How often do you update your Sierra clone under ordinary circumstances?


Edited by artie505 (04/20/20 05:22 PM)
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#54210 - 04/20/20 07:49 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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Originally Posted By: plantsower
I added the 8.8.8.8 dns number but no difference.

8.8.8.8 is Google's DNS number, but only half of it. On a second line you need to enter 8.8.4.4.

Like so:
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4


Edited by artie505 (04/20/20 08:01 PM)
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#54211 - 04/20/20 07:53 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I will attempt erasing everything. I'll let you know how it goes.

After you've erased and run Repair Disk, let me know what RD returned.

That prohibited sign makes me uneasy, and I may suggest a second test before you install or clone.
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#54212 - 04/20/20 08:20 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
OK, I'll check my iCloud settings. I don't want to use it, so I'll check.

Honestly, I rarely backup my Sierra. I was really into it at one point,but now I hardly ever think to.


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I went into Sierra 2012 but it looked just like Sierra 2015.

I think you ought to do a bit of research and find out where iCloud settings are in Sierra 2015 and make sure it's not turned on before you start installing and cloning.

Getting back to dkmarsh's thought, your external is behaving as if it is.

More: How often do you update your Sierra clone under ordinary circumstances?
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#54213 - 04/20/20 08:21 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
plantsower Online


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
OK. I thought I had a choice between the two! One was primary and one was secondary which I thought meant optional.

Update: When I went in to correct the DNS numbers the 8.8.8.8 had disappeared! Just my ip address is there. Dang! I put it in again along with 8..8.4.4.


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I added the 8.8.8.8 dns number but no difference.

8.8.8.8 is Google's DNS number, but only half of it. On a second line you need to enter 8.8.4.4.

Like so:
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4


Edited by plantsower (04/20/20 08:23 PM)
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#54214 - 04/20/20 08:26 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
plantsower Online


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Loc: Burson, CA
I ran the First Aid from Utility Disk on my Mac. It was fine. I guess you meant on the ext. H.D. as well?[


quote=artie505]
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I will attempt erasing everything. I'll let you know how it goes.

After you've erased and run Repair Disk, let me know what RD returned.

That prohibited sign makes me uneasy, and I may suggest a second test before you install or clone. [/quote]
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#54215 - 04/20/20 09:20 PM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
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I didn't erase anything yet, but I went into the ext. HD and ran disk utility, I took screen shots. The weird thing is that when I ran it on Mavericks it said it was repairing it and at the end it said it was fine. I clicked on Mavericks after that and still got the blank screen with the circle and line. In Sierra 2015 it said it was corrupted, but it never said it was repairing it but that it needed repair. Gee thanks. And on the Sierra 2012 it said it was repairing it and it was fine. Who knows?

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Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I will attempt erasing everything. I'll let you know how it goes.

After you've erased and run Repair Disk, let me know what RD returned.

That prohibited sign makes me uneasy, and I may suggest a second test before you install or clone.
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#54216 - 04/21/20 02:20 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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Originally Posted By: plantsower
Honestly, I rarely backup my Sierra. I was really into it at one point,but now I hardly ever think to.

Not to get preachy, but if you're not running Time Machine, which I think is the case, maintaining at least a reasonably current clone as backup in the event something goes wrong is in your best interests. (You bought the hardware; you may as well use it for the purpose for which you bought it. wink )
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#54217 - 04/21/20 02:24 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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Originally Posted By: plantsower
Update: When I went in to correct the DNS numbers the 8.8.8.8 had disappeared! Just my ip address is there. Dang! I put it in again along with 8..8.4.4.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number reverts again.

I think it's your ISP that's doing it...wants you to use them as your DNS resolver. (My ISP probably did the same thing but didn't balk when I changed the numbers.)
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#54218 - 04/21/20 02:43 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: plantsower]
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Originally Posted By: plantsower
I didn't erase anything yet, but I went into the ext. HD and ran disk utility, I took screen shots. The weird thing is that when I ran it on Mavericks it said it was repairing it and at the end it said it was fine. I clicked on Mavericks after that and still got the blank screen with the circle and line. In Sierra 2015 it said it was corrupted, but it never said it was repairing it but that it needed repair. Gee thanks. And on the Sierra 2012 it said it was repairing it and it was fine. Who knows?

I should have specified that in addition to running RD on each partition you need to run it on the drives themselves, i.e. the top line items in DU's sidebar that identify the drives' manufacturers.

To repair Sierra 2015 and anything else that may turn up needing repair, boot into Recovery - command-R - and search for DU. (I think it'll be under "Utilities" in your menu bar.)

I'll wait for the results from both drives before going any further.

Not that I"m terribly at all optimistic, but don't forget to try Amazon after you repair Sierra 2015.

Have you got TechTool Pro, Drive Genius, or anything of that ilk?
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#54220 - 04/21/20 07:18 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: artie505]
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Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: plantsower
I added the 8.8.8.8 dns number but no difference.
It was a longshot but easy enough to try out. 🤷‍♂️
Originally Posted By: artie505
8.8.8.8 is Google's DNS number, but only half of it. On a second line you need to enter 8.8.4.4.

Like so:
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
That is a preferred practice, but the first IP address is sufficient and the IP addresses can be in either order. The second IP address is Google's alternate server DNS as a fallback in case the first server fails to respond. I have only used a single DNS server address for years because I have a customized DNS server set to my own preferences. It is even possible to mix and match DNS providers. For example:

8.8.8.8
208.67.222.222

You can also list more than two DNS servers and they will be tried in order. This can be useful in international travel.
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#54221 - 04/21/20 07:21 AM Re: I'm back about partitioning [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Thanks for the clarification.

I've got both of Open DNS's numbers followed by both of Google's numbers in my DNS pane.

Talk about redundancy!
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