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#53261 - 01/03/20 02:54 PM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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IMHO, the real reason that he did it is to distract his supporters from his impeachment and build up his creds for the coming election. This is shades of Nixon, who secretly persuaded the North Vietnamese to hold off settling the war so that he could be credited with making peace when he was elected. Never mind that thousands of soldiers, on both sides, were killed because of this.
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#53278 - 01/06/20 04:37 PM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: jchuzi]
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
IMHO, the real reason that he did it is to distract his supporters from his impeachment and build up his creds for the coming election.

Oh. I'm sure that's part of it....particularly since The Cowardly One's tweets have shown how itchy his finger is getting. The assassination of General Soleimani is beginning to look a lot like the invasion of Iraq - make up a phoney-baloney reason and then act. The Cowardly One and Secretary Pompous keep saying there was an imminent threat but clearly they have no evidence.

I find it incredibly ironic that they both talk about Soleimani having "blood on his hands" and I think: "Really? I'm sure it pales in comparison to the blood of the nearly 1/2 billion innocent Iraqi men, women and children who have been killed as a result of the unwarranted American invasion."


Edited by ryck (01/06/20 04:39 PM)
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#53280 - 01/06/20 06:53 PM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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Wasn't Assange anti-Hillary because he thought she'd start a war?
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#53281 - 01/07/20 01:09 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
... The Cowardly One and Secretary Pompous keep saying there was an imminent threat but clearly they have no evidence.

Of course they do. Didn't you see the little vial of WMD powder which was proffered to the UN as proof? Oh, wait. That was 17 years ago. My bad. tongue smirk blush crazy

No, this time round we're just dealing with a certifiably insane narcissistic megalomaniac with the Joker's entourage of sycophantic morons bound and determined to turn the world into a smoldering slag heap. But as usual divine intervention ain't gonna happen. The sperm and egg on that ship have sailed. God's still laughing — although it's hard to tell if Jehovah is a sadist or masochist ... let's just split the difference and go with sadomasochist.

Also note that 45 has taken a page from the Taliban guidebook by wanting to destroy cultural sites. What goes around comes around.

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#53282 - 01/07/20 02:04 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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At least there are still some sane people around: Pentagon Rules Out Striking Iranian Cultural Sites, Contradicting Trump
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#53283 - 01/07/20 06:17 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: jchuzi]
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
At least there are still some sane people around:

But not enough of them. According to the New York Times, and others, Trump was offered a menu of options with the most extreme being the Soleimani assassination. The pinheads offering the menu did not want President Bonespur to choose the assassination. They just wanted the other options to appear palatable.

So, it seems, there are some blockheads running the world's most powerful war machine. Note to the Military Blockheads: If you don't want someone to choose the extreme measure, don't put it on the menu....especially when you're offering it to someone who is as moronic as you.


Edited by ryck (01/07/20 06:19 AM)
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#53312 - 01/22/20 12:27 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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How sweet it is! ... to see a Swedish teenager on the spectrum hobble the dismal/minuscule intellect of the Great Satan's chief representative. It's almost as though all's right with the world.

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#53314 - 01/22/20 07:48 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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Just when you think Trump couldn't stoop any lower, he surprises you. He may have the bulk of a beached Beluga, but Greta's the bigger person.


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#53371 - 02/03/20 01:12 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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The Simple Reason Trump Does What He Does
Because he can.

And with his renowned sports acumen, he bought the New Jersey Generals (USFL) for $9M in 1983 and 2 years later put the team in the dumpster, losing $22M.
He's applied that astounding ability to bankrupting the nation ethically and morally.

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#53378 - 02/04/20 04:11 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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I wonder if the Republicans realize that their thirst lust for power has them supporting a president who's ultimate goal is to strip them of their power?


Edited by artie505 (02/04/20 09:51 AM)
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#53379 - 02/04/20 06:45 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: artie505]
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It's clear that Republican Senators do not know what republican means, which creates the giant irony in all this. By giving Trump the blessing to do whatever the hell he wants without regard for the citizens, the "Republicans" are setting him up to be, effectively, the emperor of the United States.


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#53398 - 02/10/20 04:15 PM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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From Andrew Cohen in today’s Globe and Mail. He is a journalist, professor of journalism at Carleton University and author of Two Days in June: John F. Kennedy and the 48 Hours That Made History.

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On the last day of January, shortly after the United States Senate declined to call witnesses in the impeachment trial of Donald Trump, Jon Meacham went on national television with something to say.

Mr. Meacham is one of this country’s decorated historians, a savvy interpreter of events with an owlish authority. Unlike talking heads given to the big declaration, he scrupulously avoids generalities and superlatives.
So, when Mr. Meacham told MSNBC that Mr. Trump “is the most politically powerful president in American history” and “functionally a monarch,” it was jarring. That’s because, at some level, we fear it’s true.

With the trial ending in acquittal on Wednesday, it isn’t hard to see the President of the United States as a de facto monarch. Perhaps a constitutional one, with some legislative, administrative and judicial checks on his authority. But a sovereign nonetheless, animated by impulse, anger, hyperbole, vanity and revenge, too.

Before impeachment, Mr. Trump was a strongman unfazed by convention, unmoored by law and unencumbered by decorum. His self-described “perfect telephone call” – asking the President of Ukraine to open a corruption investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, in exchange for releasing U.S. military assistance – was why Democrats in the House of Representatives charged him with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

After impeachment, Mr. Trump remains a strongman unfazed by convention, unmoored by law and unencumbered by decorum. Now, though, he has beaten the rap (on a vote strictly along party lines other than dissenting Republican Mitt Romney, a new moral tribune). Mr. Trump remains largely unaccountable as long as the Republicans control the Senate and he controls the Republicans. This he does, masterfully, as puppeteer-in-chief.

Having been caught, Mr. Trump will not be chastened. Rather than repent, he will repeat. Like any good card-shark, he will double down on the bet that nothing can stop him now. In this he has licence from naïfs such as Maine Senator Susan Collins ("the President has learned from this case,” she says). But why change now? This President has been acting brazenly for three years: invoking executive privilege to defy congressional oversight; declaring a national emergency to build a medieval wall on the border with Mexico; dismantling a regime of industrial, commercial and environmental regulation “choking” growth; pardoning friends, sycophants and special pleaders.

If he wants to award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh, who traffics in conspiracy, he can. If he wants to use profanity in public and mock the heroic John McCain, he can. If he wants to call the media an “enemy of the people,” he can. To this self-proclaimed “very stable genius” with thickening royal jelly, criticism is lèse-majesté.
Behold, then, King Donald. With the economy purring, his popularity holding, his party cowering and his rivals sputtering, this is Mr. Trump’s moment. Perversely, his show-trial has carried the accidental president to a new, higher station: America’s modern monarch.

As any child in the United States knows, this country was born in opposition to King George III. The framers designed a system of government – the legislature, the judiciary and the presidency – with checks and balances. Such was antipathy toward the Crown that George Washington was hailed for renouncing it. As historian Clinton Rossiter wrote: “It has been said of Washington that he could have been a king but chose to be something more exalted: the first elected head of the first truly free government.”

Americans have always worried about presidents overreaching. After all, they’re already heads of state with a broad suite of powers. Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. Franklin Roosevelt tried to “pack” the Supreme Court and interned Japanese-Americans. Richard Nixon covered up Watergate.
Their critics probably called them tyrants. Mr. Trump sees himself in Andrew Jackson, the country’s seventh president. Mr. Trump made an early pilgrimage to Jackson’s home outside Nashville, the Hermitage, and hangs his portrait in the Oval Office. “Old Hickory” owned slaves, killed Native Americans and clashed with Congress. To some, he was a populist. To others, he was “King Andrew I.”

As biographer H.W. Brands argues, there is no parallel between Mr. Trump and Jackson (a victorious general and a seasoned politician, self-made and deeply flawed). But King Donald savours the comparison as much as he does imperial flourishes. This President enjoys the perquisites of office, as do most presidents, from the White House (“very elegant”) to Air Force One, which ferries him, on command, everywhere. He stages a grand military parade on July 4 and refers to “my generals.” His chaotic West Wing gives new meaning to “palace intrigue.”

Like a sovereign, he trades in bombast and braggadocio. He has the swagger of Mussolini (swelling chest, jutting chin) and the ignorance and detachment of Kaiser Wilhelm II. He is neither, of course. But that doesn’t stop him musing about the Trump dynasty (with Ivanka as heir apparent) while his courtiers talk of a third term, as if constitutional term limits are irrelevant. Maybe they are. Michael Moore and Bill Maher, both with large followings, insist that if Mr. Trump loses narrowly this year, he will cry “fraud” and refuse to leave the White House. Seriously.

When Arthur Schlesinger Jr., the historian and presidential adviser, published The Imperial Presidency in 1973, he worried about the expansion of executive power in the nuclear age. His reservation was the president’s unfettered ability to wage war without the consent of Congress. Another concern was swelling federal agencies, executive appointments and the rising federal budget.
While Mr. Nixon’s forced resignation quieted the debate, it has returned. The growth of the national security state – as well as using presidential power to address energy, immigration and the environment – have strengthened the office. It’s not Dwight Eisenhower’s presidency any more, much as this president recalls Father Knows Best.
At his trial, Mr. Trump’s defenders argued that as president, he can do largely what he wants. If it is in the national interest, it is not a crime. Alan Dershowitz peddled this, falsely, and the Republicans embraced it, slavishly.
If one thing defines Mr. Trump, it is his towering confidence. He never apologizes for flouting rules and denying norms. That’s how he can blithely resist demands from Congress to summon witnesses and release documents. He simply stonewalls.

The Democrats didn’t take him to court because it would take too long. They chose impeachment instead. Given the assault on their constitutional oversight, did they have any choice? Critics say they should have kept investigating. They note that impeachment has barely moved public opinion, although a near majority wanted Mr. Trump removed.

The danger is that he has so cavalierly and loudly dismissed his impeachment (“a hoax! a witch hunt!”) that he has drained its power to shock. Publicly, Mr. Trump treats it like a presidential parking ticket. This is the insouciance of a monarch.

Privately, though, impeachment for him is a humiliation, a stigma, the first line in his obituary. Says Nancy Pelosi, whose hand Mr. Trump refused to shake before his reality-show State of the Union Address: “Whatever happens, he has been impeached forever.” He will wear it this fall in an election likely to be a referendum on his presidency.
In the meantime, Mr. Trump is untouchable as long as he remains Marshal Pétain to the Vichy Republicans. It begs the question: Are there any checks on Absolute Trump? In fact, several.

The Democrats control the House, retaining the power to investigate and subpoena, as well as to pass bills. Mr. Trump will get nothing through, limiting his first-term legislative legacy to taxes and trade.

The courts constrain the President, sometimes, although he is changing their ideological balance. Civil society remains mobilized. The Deep State constrains Mr. Trump, too, through whistle-blowers and bureaucrats, who presumably leaked the contents of John Bolton’s book. The liberal media acts as watchdog (as the conservative media, led by Fox News, acts as guard dog). Mr. Trump’s “failing” New York Times has five million digital subscribers and Rachel Maddow is queen of MSNBC.

Ultimately, the strongest check on the President is the people. Public opinion still remains against Mr. Trump, narrowly though not inevitably. It’s too early to know. But he understands instinctively the anxiety of his rural, conservative, less-educated constituency, and exploits it shamelessly.

King Donald offers his loyal subjects bread, circuses and a magical kingdom of a generation ago – a border wall, a travel ban, tax cuts, protectionism, political incorrectness, deregulation, conservative judges and the red-meat rhetoric of God, guns and the rights of the unborn. If he is re-elected in November, he will be emboldened as no president before. He will be free to try to reshape the high court, withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, dismantle social security, shrink government, abolish regulation and end abortion.

In that new, uncharted United States, with his army of loyalists turned royalists cheering his coronation, King Donald, unbound, will reign for four more years – and perhaps beyond.


Edited by ryck (02/10/20 04:17 PM)
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#53490 - 02/27/20 12:02 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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Trump Has a Problem as the Coronavirus Threatens the US: His Credibility

Even his allies worry that President Trump has undermined his ability to appear presidential in a moment of national emergency.

Wouldn't it be sumpin if tiny little COVID-19 brought down PREZ-45 without even threatening his own immune system?!

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#53491 - 02/27/20 06:53 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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On Tuesday Trump said that the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Alex Azar, would be the point person on COVID 19 issues and planning. At the press conference, one day later, Trump blind-sided the Secretary by announcing that Mike Pence would have that role.

However, I’m sure Trump must have changed his mind because Pence has proven superior healthcare credentials. Gads. Even the health of the nation's citizens has no place in Trump's agenda.


Edited by ryck (02/27/20 06:58 AM)
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#53493 - 02/27/20 09:35 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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And, in a probable departure from reality (translation: burying your head in the sand), see Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging From Health Officials I hope that the newly-minted Medal of Freedom winner and medical expert, Rush Limbaugh, is not miffed.
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#53498 - 02/28/20 03:39 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: jchuzi]
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This editorial says it all: When a Pandemic Meets a Personality Cult
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#53504 - 02/28/20 09:50 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: jchuzi]
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
And, in a probable departure from reality (translation: burying your head in the sand), see Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging From Health Officials I hope that the newly-minted Medal of Freedom winner and medical expert, Rush Limbaugh, is not miffed.

Trump doesn't want anyone that knows what they are doing in such a visible situation so he will someone to blame any failure on. Pence with his proven record of incompetence in handling medical disasters is a perfect scapegoat. On the other hand, Rush's ego is inflated enough he might have the temerity to contradict the stable genius.
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#53505 - 02/28/20 10:08 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: joemikeb]
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A good definition of reality is "that which does not go away when you close your eyes". Trump bluster has no effect on a virus (and, I recall, the weather is not susceptible to his rants either).
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#53518 - 02/29/20 08:08 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: jchuzi]
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
A good definition of reality is "that which does not go away when you close your eyes". Trump bluster has no effect on a virus (and, I recall, the weather is not susceptible to his rants either).

Add the stock market to the list of things that are not susceptible to his bluster and ranting.
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#53519 - 02/29/20 08:27 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: jchuzi]
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
....Trump bluster has no effect on a virus...

No, but his bluster gets his followers to believe it's no big deal. At a rally yesterday he referred to it as "the Democrats' latest hoax" while attendees cheered. Yet again, President Bonespur demonstrates just how capable he is of incredibly stupid and irresponsible behaviour.


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#53520 - 02/29/20 01:29 PM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
... Yet again, President Bonespur demonstrates just how capable he is of incredibly stupid and irresponsible behaviour.

Doncha think this equally applies to his "base" = "Morons R Us" ?! (After all he did get elected by a major clique of Tweedledumbs and Tweedledumbers.) tongue
And if the Democrats don't get their act together and get focused ... Well, you get the drift.

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#53522 - 03/01/20 06:30 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: grelber]
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Originally Posted By: grelber
Doncha think this equally applies to his "base" = "Morons R Us" ?!

From the mouths of boobs... Trump addressing a rally of his base: "The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. They're politicizing it. One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. This is their new hoax.”

And they all cheered.


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#53523 - 03/01/20 08:46 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
Originally Posted By: grelber
Doncha think this equally applies to his "base" = "Morons R Us" ?!

From the mouths of boobs... Trump addressing a rally of his base: "The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. They're politicizing it. One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. This is their new hoax.”
And they all cheered.

I know. It's so very sad. It's too bad that hoi polloi isn't subjected to some sort of "reality check" or intelligence test. But given the results of the last election (at least), there would only be a limited number of countable votes.* The founding fathers tried to circumvent such issues, but clearly they failed.

(* The same holds true on this side of the 49th parallel. Sheesh. If NZ's immigration policies didn't discriminate so dramatically for folk of my vintage, I'd long since been gone to live out my dotage in a Hobbit house.)

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#53524 - 03/01/20 09:56 AM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
From the mouths of boobs... Trump addressing a rally of his base: "The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. They're politicizing it. One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. This is their new hoax.”

And they all cheered.

He's really stuck his neck out this time, because neither a captive Senate nor a captive Justice Department can make the coronavirus go away if it spreads as scientists in the wild expect it to.

He'll try to label everything that doesn't come from Pence as false news, but the day his base realizes that it's dying of terminal Democratic hoax will be a bad one for him.

Tough question: Considering the possible consequences of things going in either direction, do we want him to be right or wrong?
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#53526 - 03/01/20 02:38 PM Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ... [Re: artie505]
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Originally Posted By: artie505
Tough question: Considering the possible consequences of things going in either direction, do we want him to be right or wrong?

Good question! 👏

Unfortunately I don't think anyone will have a choice in the outcome. 😱

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