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#52486 - 09/20/19 10:46 AM Now have to open latptop to wake up
kevs Offline


Registered: 12/07/09

New nuisance post Mojave, : I now have to open lid of laptop to wake up from sleep. This is laptop acting as a computer, with aftermarket display and new apple magic keyboard, to watch tV. Pre Mojave, I would just tap the keyboard and it would wake up Thanks!

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#52493 - 09/20/19 01:10 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: kevs]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Since I upgraded to Mojave I've had to tap my trackpad TWICE to get my MBP to wake from sleep, so you may need to do the same with your laptop's keyboard.

Correction: No, that's incorrect. As always, tapping once wakes my MBP from sleep, but I now have to tap twice to get rid of my screensaver.


Edited by artie505 (09/20/19 05:31 PM)
Edit Reason: Correction
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#52494 - 09/20/19 01:21 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: artie505]
kevs Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
And before Mojave?

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#52497 - 09/20/19 04:44 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: artie505]
joemikeb Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
With a wireless keyboard or keypad or mouse I have found that two key actions are sometimes necessary.
  1. apparently wakes up the bluetooth connection
  2. the actual command or action that is recognized
I have sometimes noticed this appears to change with a new MacOS update.
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#52498 - 09/20/19 07:39 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: joemikeb]
kevs Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
Joe, what did that mean, it went over my head?

But you are saying the culprit is the new wireless magic keyboard.

For years, I would click any key on white old keyboard and laptop awakens from sleep. Now, I have to open the laptop lid.

You are saying the next big os post Mojave will get behavior back to before? Nothing I can do now?

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#52503 - 09/21/19 05:11 AM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: kevs]
joemikeb Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
The culprit is NOT the magic keyboard it is BlueTooth and the design of the code. There is nothing you can do right now. Whether it will be fixed in MacOS 10.15 (Catalina) or not I cannot tell. To be honest I don't really notice the problem one way or the other, but IIRC it has come and gone in various releases of the betas. At the moment it is gone, but until the Golden Master is released we won't know exactly what changes will be in it.
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#52505 - 09/21/19 03:06 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: joemikeb]
kevs Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
Thanks Joe, I get the gist there. Have no idea what IIRC or Golden Master means.

Guessing: Now that I have a bluetooth and not corded keyboard, you are saying when I click the keyboard to awaken the laptop it does not work. (opening the lid does -- total nuisance)

This is culprit?

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#52506 - 09/22/19 10:56 AM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: kevs]
joemikeb Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
You have the idea. I have my laptop open, but when I boot it up in the morning and it prompts for the password, I have to hit a key, any key, on my wireless keyboard before I type the password or the first letter of the password gets lost. It is the same phenomenon.

My apologies for the use of jargon:
  • IIRC zIf I Recall Correctly
  • Golden Master The version of a software product that will actually be released to the public.
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#52507 - 09/22/19 05:02 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: joemikeb]
kevs Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
ok Joe thanks.
Darn, Is Apple aware of this you think, that wireless keyboard bring nuisance issue that the corded one did not?

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#52508 - 09/22/19 05:58 PM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: joemikeb]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
  • IIRC zIf I Recall Correctly

zlf?

Years ago a read a piece in which it was postulated that when aliens come to pick through our ruins they'll have a difficult time with language because of acronyms.

That problem has probably multiplied exponentially with the advent of computers, and even more-so with texting!
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#52509 - 09/23/19 06:40 AM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: artie505
Years ago a read a piece in which it was postulated that when aliens come to pick through our ruins they'll have a difficult time with language because of acronyms.

That problem has probably multiplied exponentially with the advent of computers, and even more-so with texting!

When I worked at Texas Instruments we had a published manual of acronyms that as I recall was well over 300 pages in length. The same acronym might be used in multiple divisions and/or disciplines but with a totally different and unrelated meaning in each it might be used in multiple contexts within the same major project again with totally different or even worse somewhat similar meanings. There also might be multiple acronyms for the same identical "thing".

As a Software Design Engineer working in a training branch I once fought with a PhD educator for several months to convince him the documented Software Requirements Analysis process was procedurally identical to the Training Needs Assessment process he was writing. The only significant difference being one process description used software engineering jargon and the other used education jargon. (He was finally convinced but never forgave me because I had reduced his planned two year project to less than two weeks worth of copy and paste.)

I am convinced some level of mis-understanding is inevitable in any inter-disciplinary discussion and the deeper you get into the disciplines the more frequent and greater the level of mis-communication.

Quote:
zlf? = IF typed in a hurry and hitting SUBMIT before a thorough proofreading. 🤦🏻‍♂️
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#52510 - 09/23/19 07:33 AM Re: Now have to open latptop to wake up [Re: joemikeb]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
(He was finally convinced but never forgave me because I had reduced his planned two year project to less than two weeks worth of copy and paste.)

grin      At least you left him with a job.
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