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#51837 - 06/13/19 09:02 AM What happened to the green light?
deniro Offline


Registered: 09/09/09
Some of you know that I've been using 10.11 less than a year. In that time, I'm still finding elements of the OS that are new to me or that I haven't been able to change to my satisfaction.

Which brings me to: maximize window. When you click on the green dot in the upper left corner of a window, the window should fill the screen. Except now it takes the menu bar with it. Well, I like the menu bar. I use it. ESC key doesn't return you to normal either.

Is there a way to maximize a window without vanishing the menu bar?
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#51838 - 06/13/19 10:23 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: deniro]
dkmarsh Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09

Double-click the window's title bar/tool bar. Double-clicking a second time returns the window to its previous state.
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#51839 - 06/13/19 06:38 PM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: dkmarsh]
deniro Offline


Registered: 09/09/09
Thanks.
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#51840 - 06/13/19 07:08 PM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
That doesn't work for me in Mojave; should it?
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#51841 - 06/14/19 03:08 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: artie505]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: artie505
That doesn't work for me in Mojave; should it?

I just checked and neither does it seem to work in High Sierra. I had to quit Safari and then re-open it.
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#51842 - 06/14/19 03:20 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: ryck]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: ryck
I had to quit Safari and then re-open it.

Please clarify that, i.e. what happened when you re-opened Safari? Did it then work?

It doesn't work for me under any circumstances.
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#51843 - 06/14/19 03:36 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: artie505]
freelance Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: London, UK
I'm on High Sierra. If I click the green button (Firefox window) the window goes to full screen. Then, if I raise the cursor to the very top edge of the screen, the menu bar reappears and I can click the green button again, which returns the window to its original size.
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#51844 - 06/14/19 03:41 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: freelance]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I see that in Mojave, and it's expected, but deniro doesn't want that.

He wants the window to go full screen except for the menu bar as it used to do.
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#51845 - 06/14/19 04:42 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: ryck]
dkmarsh Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09

I'm running High Sierra 10.13.6, and this behavior works for me across all apps, or at least Safari, Mail, Maps, Activity Monitor, TextEdit, and Keychain Access (all the apps I have open at the moment).
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#51846 - 06/14/19 04:47 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: dkmarsh]
dkmarsh Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09

System Preferences -> Dock -> put a check in the Double-click a window's title bar to [zoom or minimize] checkbox.
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#51847 - 06/14/19 05:34 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: dkmarsh]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh
….put a check in the Double-click a window's title bar to [zoom or minimize] checkbox.

I took a peek and that’s how my Dock was set up….perhaps a default setting as I’ve never goofed with the Dock preferences. Although that didn’t work for me, freelance’s method did the trick.

Originally Posted By: freelance
….raise the cursor to the very top edge of the screen, the menu bar reappears….click the green button again, which returns the window to its original size.

All’s well that ends well.
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#51848 - 06/14/19 07:37 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

System Preferences -> Dock -> put a check in the Double-click a window's title bar to [zoom or minimize] checkbox.

Thanks; that works.
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#51849 - 06/14/19 09:01 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: artie505]
deniro Offline


Registered: 09/09/09
Let's say I'm in Firefox. I grab a corner of the window and shrink the window in half. I click the green light. The window maximizes, but the menu bar disappears. If I double click the Firefox window, it minimizes to the dock.

I'm trying to lock the menu bar in place so it never disappears.
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#51850 - 06/14/19 09:19 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: deniro]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
The pref referenced by dkmarsh is your answer: double-clicking on a window's title bar expands it while leaving the menu bar intact.

I've tried it in both Safari and Firefox, and it works.
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#51851 - 06/14/19 09:20 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: deniro]
Ira L Offline


Registered: 08/13/09
Loc: California
Unless you manually resize the window to full-screen (keeping the menu bar visible) by dragging a corner, I don't think you can prevent the menu bar from disappearing; it's a "feature" of full-screen mode.

Even if the menu bar disappears, moving the cursor to where it was causes it to pop down. There are also apps that assist with resizing and repositioning windows that could keep the menu bar visible.
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#51853 - 06/14/19 09:22 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: Ira L]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
dkmarsh's referenced pref is different than full-screen mode and fulfills deniro's purpose.
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#51857 - 06/15/19 09:35 AM Re: What happened to the green light? [Re: deniro]
joemikeb Online

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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: deniro
Let's say I'm in Firefox. I grab a corner of the window and shrink the window in half. I click the green light. The window maximizes, but the menu bar disappears. If I double click the Firefox window, it minimizes to the dock.

I'm trying to lock the menu bar in place so it never disappears.
The green button by definition activates full screen mode and by definition the menu bar in full screen mode only appears when you move the cursor to the top of your screen. This is touted as a "feature" of full screen mode because it allows the app to use every available pixel on the screen for its display. By-the-way you might give full screen mode an honest try. Once you become accustomed to it, and learn to switch between full screen apps using App Switcher (programmable on your mouse) or a three finger swipe on the trackpad it is really pretty useful. I find it particularly useful on my 13" Macbook Pro when it is not connected to the 27" Thunderbolt Display.

Short of reverting to an earlier version of macOS the best (only?) alternative is the "zoom" feature suggested by DK. It is not the same as full screen and works differently in different apps but it does work reliably.
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