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#50701 - 12/19/18 05:58 AM Three Questions about Facebook
joemikeb Online
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
After reading this New York Times story
  1. would you trust Mark Zuckerberg with your data?
  2. Can Facebook's business plan survive without deals like this?
  3. Do you (still?) have a Facebook account?
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#50703 - 12/19/18 08:17 AM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: joemikeb]
jchuzi Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
After reading this New York Times story
  1. would you trust Mark Zuckerberg with your data?
  2. Can Facebook's business plan survive without deals like this?
  3. Do you (still?) have a Facebook account?


1. Never.
2. Maybe, but it deserves to die if it can't fix it.
3. I never had a FB account and never will.
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#50704 - 12/19/18 08:42 AM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: joemikeb]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
  1. would you trust Mark Zuckerberg with your data?
  2. Can Facebook's business plan survive without deals like this?
  3. Do you (still?) have a Facebook account?

1. Would you trust a guy who looks like he sleeps in a burrow with ANYTHING, let alone your data? If I've ever run across a guy who looks like his nickname should be "Weasel", it's Mark Zuckerberg.

2. It might survive, but it sounds like it would suffer greatly.

3. NEVER had one! The first "friend" request I got, even aside from it's "You may know..." freaking me out, repulsed me totally, and I clicked on the "Never darken my door again" link at its bottom. (And, although I won't gift them with "true to their word", they haven't, but I don't doubt that they've got a record of every public page I've ever looked at.)

Originally Posted By: Steve Satterfield, Facebook’s director of privacy and public policy
Still, Facebook executives have acknowledged missteps over the past year. “We know we’ve got work to do to regain people’s trust,” Mr. Satterfield said. “Protecting people’s information requires stronger teams, better technology and clearer policies, and that’s where we’ve been focused for most of 2018.”

Why am I not surprised that he didn't mention "INTEGRITY"?

And speaking of integrity, it's pretty remarkable how many of Facebook's beneficiaries were/are unaware of their special access. tongue
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#50705 - 12/19/18 10:31 AM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: jchuzi]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: jchuzi

1. Never.
2. Maybe, but it deserves to die if it can't fix it.
3. I never had a FB account and never will.

Ditto — in spades.

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#50709 - 12/19/18 04:44 PM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: joemikeb]
ryck Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
What Jon said.
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#50714 - 12/19/18 05:53 PM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: ryck]
joemikeb Online
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
To be fair my responses are:
  1. I think Zukerberg meant well in the beginning, but in the rush to get ever bigger and more influential he hasn't taken time to rethink what his philosophy in light of 2018/2019 internet realities — so NO!
  2. I think facebook can survive, simply because so many people have become totally dependent on it for much of their social lives. However it may have to go to a "level" membership with the lowest level at no cost other than providing marketers with free access to the subscriber's entire lives, and more secure level(s) on a paid subscription basis.
  3. My account has been inactive for at least three or four years, but I am taking steps to have it removed completely. Unfortunatly this may cut me off from a few organizations/businesses who no longer have web access outside of Facebook.

By-the-way I feel much the same way about Google but at least they were honest enough to openly change their privacy policy to say they own your data and reserve the right to sell it to anyone who wants it.
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#50719 - 12/20/18 12:26 AM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: London, UK
3. I had to open a Facebook account to view photographs my friend posted. I embraced the concept for a brief time, but closed my account when I read that anyone who friended you could be compromised just by the association. I followed the instructions for complete downloading of my 'file' and deletion of the account. Trouble is, I don't know if I've disappeared from the site, because you can't look for yourself if you don't have an account.

However, if a business has a site on Facebook and you have an offsite link, from Google maybe, or a direct site address, you can access their webpage.

Since Google has been mentioned, you might find this interesting:
The State and Google
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#50720 - 12/20/18 01:36 AM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
To be fair my responses are:
  1. I think [Zuckerberg] meant well in the beginning, but in the rush to get ever bigger and more influential he hasn't taken time to rethink what his philosophy in light of 2018/2019 internet realities — so NO!

You may be crediting MZ with a philosophy beyond that of pure greed. I think not.

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#50722 - 12/20/18 06:41 AM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: freelance]
ryck Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: freelance
Since Google has been mentioned, you might find this interesting:
The State and Google

Yikes !!!
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#50725 - 12/20/18 02:44 PM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: ryck]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: ryck
Originally Posted By: freelance
Since Google has been mentioned, you might find this interesting:
The State and Google

Yikes !!!

Eating links is a good way to start your day; clicking on them is a good way to ruin it. frown

(I wonder what Pogo would have to say?)

More: 45 seconds to post.
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#50727 - 12/20/18 04:04 PM Re: Three Questions about Facebook [Re: artie505]
ryck Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: artie505
(I wonder what Pogo would have to say?)

Probably, "Enough's enough, I'm going fishing."


Edited by ryck (12/20/18 04:05 PM)
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