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#49321 - 07/04/18 01:58 AM Back up and running!
tacit Offline


Registered: 08/03/09
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
FineTunedMac is now up and running on its new home. The transfer to the new server was rougher than I anticipated, as the database is now quite large indeed, so the transfer took a lot longer than I expected and produced some weird errors along the way. Sorry about that!

The new server gives us considerable room to grow, so I hope this is the last move.
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#49322 - 07/04/18 02:01 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: tacit
FineTunedMac is now up and running on its new home.

Indeed it is. And with none of the access glitches which you suggested might occur (although I did clear my DNS cache in anticipation of such).

Mazel tov.

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#49323 - 07/04/18 02:12 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: tacit
The new server gives us considerable room to grow, so I hope this is the last move.

I hope we outgrow it by next year!
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#49325 - 07/04/18 07:41 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I'm finding that the new server is responding a bit more slowly than the previous one did...not major...a second or two...but definitely noticeable and quite annoying.
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#49326 - 07/04/18 07:46 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: artie505]
jchuzi Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Originally Posted By: artie505
I'm finding that the new server is responding a bit more slowly than the previous one did...not major...a second or two...but definitely noticeable and quite annoying.
I see that also.
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#49332 - 07/04/18 09:22 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: jchuzi]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Originally Posted By: artie505
I'm finding that the new server is responding a bit more slowly than the previous one did...not major...a second or two...but definitely noticeable and quite annoying.
I see that also.

Interesting. I'm finding just the opposite, albeit only slightly so. But then it may be due to my dialup connection's slow speeds. Who knows?

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#49341 - 07/04/18 05:35 PM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I just tried disabling content blockers to no avail. frown

Really terribly annoying! mad

To quantify, even when I've seen "Generated in 1.493 seconds", it has often taken as many as 5 seconds to get to that screen.

Update: It's faster in the dead of night.


Edited by artie505 (07/04/18 11:29 PM)
Edit Reason: Update
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#49342 - 07/05/18 12:23 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: grelber
Interesting. I'm finding just the opposite, albeit only slightly so. But then it may be due to my dialup connection's slow speeds. Who knows?

I spoke too soon. I too am finding significant slowdown (compared with FTM's previous server and other websites').
Curiouser is that every so often — and the fact that it happens at all is disconcerting since I've rarely seen such — access crashes with the warning: Firefox can't find the server. Since the new server came on line, that's popped up about a half dozen times.

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#49343 - 07/05/18 12:29 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: grelber
Curiouser is that every so often — and the fact that it happens at all is disconcerting since I've rarely seen such — access crashes with the warning: Firefox can't find the server. Since the new server came on line, that's popped up about a half dozen times.

I haven't seen that at all in Safari.
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#49347 - 07/05/18 07:12 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
Virtual1 Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: grelber
I spoke too soon. I too am finding significant slowdown (compared with FTM's previous server and other websites').


I'm noticing delays when submitting new posts. Sometimes it's fine, other times there's a 5-10 second lag before it takes me to my successful post, and on rare occasions the page times out.

Me being the paranoid person that I am, I try to copy my post before hitting submit, so if it eats it, I have it on my clipboard to try again. If I forget, unfortunately the bbs locks the edit field from copying and I have to hit the browser STOP to unlock it, then select-all/copy, then load the thread again to see if it's there. (it usually is) If not, I try again. But at least I don't lose my diligent work wink
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#49355 - 07/05/18 03:34 PM Re: Back up and running! [Re: artie505]
tacit Offline


Registered: 08/03/09
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Huh. I'm not seeing that. I'll keep an eye on the logs and see if anything shows up. It might be coincidence, or it might be that there's network connection (the new server is on the east coast).
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#49364 - 07/06/18 07:03 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: Virtual1]
jchuzi Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
Originally Posted By: grelber
I spoke too soon. I too am finding significant slowdown (compared with FTM's previous server and other websites').


I'm noticing delays when submitting new posts. Sometimes it's fine, other times there's a 5-10 second lag before it takes me to my successful post, and on rare occasions the page times out.

Me being the paranoid person that I am, I try to copy my post before hitting submit, so if it eats it, I have it on my clipboard to try again. If I forget, unfortunately the bbs locks the edit field from copying and I have to hit the browser STOP to unlock it, then select-all/copy, then load the thread again to see if it's there. (it usually is) If not, I try again. But at least I don't lose my diligent work wink
I see the same thing.
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#49370 - 07/06/18 09:29 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: jchuzi]
Ira L Offline


Registered: 08/13/09
Loc: California
I too see delays in posting of the same durations mentioned.
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#49399 - 07/09/18 09:43 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: jchuzi]
Ira L Offline


Registered: 08/13/09
Loc: California
I am seeing massive delays in posting, some with freezes and no indication that the post went through (except to see it later in the forum).

I just got this error message:
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@finetunedmac.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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#49401 - 07/09/18 03:21 PM Re: Back up and running! [Re: Ira L]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: Ira L
I am seeing massive delays in posting, some with freezes and no indication that the post went through (except to see it later in the forum).
I just got this error message:
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@finetunedmac.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Yup. All that and more.

You might want to check out the doubling of your response (posts #49397 and #49398) in The Death of "lie" thread. That's happened to me several times since server turnover.

And it just happened again while trying to submit this:

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@finetunedmac.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

(Look familiar?!)

How about this one ... which also pops up with the new server (and not with previous servers):

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.
We can’t connect to the server at www.finetunedmac.com.

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#49409 - 07/11/18 06:33 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
MacManiac Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Paradise....on the central Ore...
Generated in 3.521 seconds in which 3.117 seconds were spent on a total of 40 queries.......

Saw the above on initial logon this morning.


Worse than that, encountered the following when I tried to submit this post the first time:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@finetunedmac.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

FWIW, I had good internal and external ping speeds and throughput speeds both up and down when I checked my end....

edited to add the error message that occurred on submission....the post had gone through properly despite the error message received.


Edited by MacManiac (07/11/18 06:40 AM)
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#49410 - 07/11/18 07:25 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: MacManiac]
joemikeb Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
All of the above except I haven't seen the error messages yet.

I Spoke too soon when I submitted the previous i got…
Quote:
Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@finetunedmac.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


UPDATE:

I am now getting the error message with every submission and have to re-enter the site to find the post has been made.


Edited by joemikeb (07/11/18 02:20 PM)
Edit Reason: Update
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#49414 - 07/11/18 10:05 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
The increasing frequency of internal and other server errors manifesting across a variety of platforms and browsers leads one to believe that HAL-like insanity has gripped the new server. crazy
And we all know how that problem was resolved. tongue (Can you say "lobotomy"?) blush

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#49426 - 07/11/18 11:07 PM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
tacit Offline


Registered: 08/03/09
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Ugh. I've been tangling with this problem for days.

According to what I'm reading on the UBB.threads developer forum, UBB.threads does not play nice with the newest versions of PHP and with the security modules installed on this new server I've rolled back to an earlier version of PHP and tried to work around the security mods problem. I hope (fingers crossed) that fixes the slowness and the Internal Server Error problems.

If it doesn't, I'll keep tinkering. I'd hate to have to disable the added security modules, but if I have to, I have to.
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#49427 - 07/11/18 11:18 PM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I don't know if it's pertinent, but I've found that I experience the "error" problem only when posting a new post; editing an existing one goes through more or less smoothly, i.e. with only a several second delay.

More: Nothing had changed when I posted this.

I've taken to waiting a few seconds after hitting "Submit" and logging out/in. (...which has now stopped working, so I quit/relaunch Safari...GIANT PIA!. frown )


Edited by artie505 (07/12/18 02:02 AM)
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#49428 - 07/12/18 12:51 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Add this issue to the list of problems to be addressed:

Several (new) threads now have replies but zero views, eg —

Mac OS X Applications > Mail Junk mail: Replies 3 Views 0

Networking > Removing Facetime History from Mac: Replies 3 Views 0

So, latter-day HAL continues to flip out. tongue

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#49429 - 07/12/18 01:58 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I've never figured out what "Views" actually means.

Is a poster (also) counted as a viewer or is a viewer someone who's done no more than look?

More to the point, have you viewed those threads (which still show -0- Views)?


Edited by artie505 (07/12/18 03:33 AM)
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#49430 - 07/12/18 06:06 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: artie505]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: artie505
Is a poster (also) counted as a viewer or is a viewer someone who's done no more than look?

The original poster (ie, the original post) doesn't count. See some of the new threads that read: Replies 0 Views 0.
Anyone who clicks on the thread normally (ie, in the past, prior to this latest 'error') gets registered as a View; if that person then replies, it gets registered as a Reply.

Originally Posted By: artie505
More to the point, have you viewed those threads (which still show -0- Views)?

Yes, and none of them has changed despite repeated views.

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#49432 - 07/12/18 08:03 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: tacit]
MacManiac Offline
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Paradise....on the central Ore...
Yeah, so far I've had to remove two duplicate posts from Networking caused by this issue....Rita saw the first attempt using Safari "hang" and so went to Firefox to submit, then found that both attempts had gone through.

I'm still seeing the "hang" on submission as of this morning, but it no longer generates an error response. Attempting to re-submit using Safari results in the ubb message that the submit button is disabled now because the post has already been submitted.

Hope this additional info is helpful.
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#49441 - 07/12/18 09:08 AM Re: Back up and running! [Re: MacManiac]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I wonder if it's significant that my first four posts in this thread were processed slowly but were NOT affected by the error problem?
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