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#49171 - 06/23/18 09:11 PM Removing Cookies
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
I like to remove cookies every night. I keep two. After I remove them for the first time, more show up and I delete them. The weird thing is some are cookies from websites I haven't visited in awhile. Why are there cookies on my computer from those websites; i.e. costco for instance?
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#49174 - 06/23/18 11:44 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Your problem may be Evercookies.
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#49184 - 06/24/18 09:08 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Looks like I have to routinely empty cache and clear history. I use Disconnect which I thought was supposed to stop all that. The guy that invented it should be ashamed of himself unless I'm missing something.


Originally Posted By: artie505
Your problem may be Evercookies.
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#49186 - 06/24/18 10:27 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Looks like I have to routinely empty cache and clear history. I use Disconnect which I thought was supposed to stop all that. The guy that invented it should be ashamed of himself unless I'm missing something.


Originally Posted By: artie505
Your problem may be Evercookies.

I asked Cookie's developer if it could deal with Evercookies, and he replied

Originally Posted By: Russell
Yup,

Just make sure cache removal is enabled.

I've got Cookie set to clear cache whenever I quit Safari, and I sometimes do interim command-option-E clears. (Note that you can't clear cache while Safari is running by any method other than that command.)

What you're missing is that Evercookies are beneficial to those who place them.
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#49187 - 06/24/18 11:15 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Originally Posted By: aratie505
I've got Cookie set to clear cache whenever I quit Safari, and I sometimes do interim command-option-E clears. (Note that you can't clear cache while Safari is running by any method other than that command.)

Another way is to use the Develop menu, which lists that keyboard shortcut as a reminder.
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#49189 - 06/24/18 11:27 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: jchuzi]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Originally Posted By: aratie505
I've got Cookie set to clear cache whenever I quit Safari, and I sometimes do interim command-option-E clears. (Note that you can't clear cache while Safari is running by any method other than that command.)

Another way is to use the Develop menu, which lists that keyboard shortcut as a reminder.

Why would I want to mouse up to my menu bar and click on "Develop" and then mouse down to and click on "Empty Caches" when there's a much quicker/easier key command?

I don't see the key command as a "reminder", but as a "this is how you really do it".

And I'm sure there are many who don't agree. tongue
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#49192 - 06/24/18 01:54 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Where can I look to see the cache before I delete it?


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Looks like I have to routinely empty cache and clear history. I use Disconnect which I thought was supposed to stop all that. The guy that invented it should be ashamed of himself unless I'm missing something.


Originally Posted By: artie505
Your problem may be Evercookies.

I asked Cookie's developer if it could deal with Evercookies, and he replied

Originally Posted By: Russell
Yup,

Just make sure cache removal is enabled.

I've got Cookie set to clear cache whenever I quit Safari, and I sometimes do interim command-option-E clears. (Note that you can't clear cache while Safari is running by any method other than that command.)

What you're missing is that Evercookies are beneficial to those who place them.
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#49193 - 06/24/18 03:29 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Where can I look to see the cache before I delete it?

If you mean you want to examine what's in cache before you clear it, I don't know if it's possible.
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#49195 - 06/24/18 03:40 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Yes, that's why I meant.


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Where can I look to see the cache before I delete it?

If you mean you want to examine what's in cache before you clear it, I don't know if it's possible.
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#49196 - 06/24/18 03:54 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I looked at a couple of apps on MacUpdate, and they seem to show no more than the URLs of the websites you've visited.

There may be a pertinent app, but I'm unaware of it.
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#49198 - 06/24/18 04:53 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: artie505
I looked at a couple of apps on MacUpdate, and they seem to show no more than the URLs of the websites you've visited.
There may be a pertinent app, but I'm unaware of it.

I gather that Safari, unlike Firefox, does not allow examination of cache(s).
In Firefox I just enter about:cache in the URL window and thereby gain access to complete descriptions of each and every cached item.
Every cookie (and subordinate cookies) in Safari (as in Firefox) should be viewable and manageable in a straightforward manner.
It's unclear to me why there should be a problem here.

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#49199 - 06/24/18 05:15 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: grelber
Originally Posted By: artie505
I looked at a couple of apps on MacUpdate, and they seem to show no more than the URLs of the websites you've visited.
There may be a pertinent app, but I'm unaware of it.

I gather that Safari, unlike Firefox, does not allow examination of cache(s).
In Firefox I just enter about:cache in the URL window and thereby gain access to complete descriptions of each and every cached item.
Every cookie (and subordinate cookies) in Safari (as in Firefox) should be viewable and manageable in a straightforward manner.
It's unclear to me why there should be a problem here.

If Safari has got such a feature I've never heard it mentioned. (I just looked in my "Develop" menu and didn't see anything pertinent.)

If it's not intrusive, would you please post a screenshot?

Why have you injected cookies into a cache discussion?
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#49200 - 06/25/18 02:09 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
As previously noted, when I enter about:cache into Firefox's URL window (in a new tab), I get a page with the title Information about the Network Cache Storage Service, within I can access information on 3 separate caches: memory, disk, appcache; the first two permit complete List Cache Entries.

I just looked through my Safari (9.1.2) and also found nothing equivalent. You may have to install a third-party extension to monitor the cache(s), which is what I had prior to Mozilla upgrading their browser to Firefox Quantum, which disabled many such extensions while at the same time providing their own internally secure and robust versions (although in this case the ability to access cache lists via about:cache, much like configuration via about:config, existed prior to that).

Originally Posted By: artie505
If it's not intrusive, would you please post a screenshot?

I'd like to supply a screenshot, but the last time I tried to do so using Imgur (as you may recall), it was so frustrating that I gave up (even after several days of exploring it). Plus I could figure out no way to do so without leaving "a trail of breadcrumbs".
Perhaps someone else who uses Firefox and and has better luck with Imgur could oblige.

Originally Posted By: artie505
Why have you injected cookies into a cache discussion?

Cookies were the original starting point for this thread (Removing Cookies).

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#49201 - 06/25/18 02:31 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: grelber
As previously noted....

I'd like to supply a screenshot....

Oops! I forgot that I've got Firefox. I just took a look for myself. (I'll never understand why you had a problem with Imgur; it's not quite the MOST intuitive website I've ever seen, but it ranks high up there.)

Originally Posted By: grelber
Originally Posted By: artie505
Why have you injected cookies into a cache discussion?

Cookies were the original starting point for this thread (Removing Cookies).

Yeah, but your injecting them into the middle of a discussion about cache was confusing.
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#49204 - 06/25/18 08:19 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
MG2009 Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
In a FINDER window:

1. Go to the HD folder and open it. Open SYSTEM/LIBRARY and LIBRARY folders. There will be a CACHE folder in which you can see each item. Some items are "blocked" and cannot be deleted. At least, not by trying to simply move to the Trash. (In most cases, I would expect there is nothing of interest to remove there and probably not wise to do so. I never have.)

2. Also, go to your USER LIBRARY folder and open it. Note: This can be found using the FINDER Dropdown Menu = Go while holding the Opt key.

There will be a CACHE folder in there as well. Inside that is a COM.APPLE.SAFARI folder plus a METADATA folder which contains the SAFARI cache. (P.S. I only use the SAFARI browser, but I suspect with a little digging around, other browser caches will be nearby.)



Edited by MG2009 (06/25/18 08:37 AM)
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#49206 - 06/25/18 09:04 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: grelber]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
I went to Google and found this because of your post regarding removing cache:

Firefox
From the History menu, select Clear Recent History. ...
From the Time range to clear: drop-down menu, select the desired range; to clear your entire cache, select Everything.
Next to "Details", click the down arrow to choose which elements of the history to clear; to clear your entire cache, select all items.


So thanks! At least it's out of Firefox for now which I use rare
ly.



Originally Posted By: grelber
Originally Posted By: artie505
I looked at a couple of apps on MacUpdate, and they seem to show no more than the URLs of the websites you've visited.
There may be a pertinent app, but I'm unaware of it.

I gather that Safari, unlike Firefox, does not allow examination of cache(s).
In Firefox I just enter about:cache in the URL window and thereby gain access to complete descriptions of each and every cached item.
Every cookie (and subordinate cookies) in Safari (as in Firefox) should be viewable and manageable in a straightforward manner.
It's unclear to me why there should be a problem here.
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#49207 - 06/25/18 09:16 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: MG2009]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Funny, using Option to find the User Library doesn't work for me. It used to on my other laptop, but not this one.


Originally Posted By: MG2009
In a FINDER window:

1. Go to the HD folder and open it. Open SYSTEM/LIBRARY and LIBRARY folders. There will be a CACHE folder in which you can see each item. Some items are "blocked" and cannot be deleted. At least, not by trying to simply move to the Trash. (In most cases, I would expect there is nothing of interest to remove there and probably not wise to do so. I never have.)

2. Also, go to your USER LIBRARY folder and open it. Note: This can be found using the FINDER Dropdown Menu = Go while holding the Opt key.

There will be a CACHE folder in there as well. Inside that is a COM.APPLE.SAFARI folder plus a METADATA folder which contains the SAFARI cache. (P.S. I only use the SAFARI browser, but I suspect with a little digging around, other browser caches will be nearby.)

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#49209 - 06/25/18 12:00 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Funny, using Option to find the User Library doesn't work for me. It used to on my other laptop, but not this one.

It is Shift+Command+G (⇧⌘G) while you are in Finder then enter
  • ~/Library — to get the User Library (Don't forget the tilde (~) before the slash)
  • /Library — to get the root Library
  • /System/Library — to get the System Library
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#49212 - 06/25/18 03:24 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: joemikeb]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Thank you!!


Originally Posted By: joemikeb
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Funny, using Option to find the User Library doesn't work for me. It used to on my other laptop, but not this one.

It is Shift+Command+G (⇧⌘G) while you are in Finder then enter
  • ~/Library — to get the User Library (Don't forget the tilde (~) before the slash)
  • /Library — to get the root Library
  • /System/Library — to get the System Library
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#49213 - 06/25/18 04:11 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Funny, using Option to find the User Library doesn't work for me. It used to on my other laptop, but not this one.

Option is unnecessary In my High Sierra; clicking on Finder > Go shows "Library" (i.e. ~/Library) in the drop-down.
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#49214 - 06/25/18 05:37 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Didn't Go used to show Library once upon a time, and then they felt the need to hide it?


Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Funny, using Option to find the User Library doesn't work for me. It used to on my other laptop, but not this one.

Option is unnecessary In my High Sierra; clicking on Finder > Go shows "Library" (i.e. ~/Library) in the drop-down.
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#49216 - 06/25/18 06:03 PM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
Urquhart Online


Registered: 08/10/17
Loc: Netherlands
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Didn't Go used to show Library once upon a time, and then they felt the need to hide it?

The default is hidden (10.7 and higher), but there is now (10.9 and higher) a setting to make it show (again) like a regular folder. But the setting only shows with your Home folder open, then ⌘J Show View Options.

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#49220 - 06/26/18 06:34 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Artie: Did you remove your offer to give me a Terminal Command for Library? Because when I clicked on the link in my email I got an error message as such: There was a problem looking up this post in our database.
Please click [ Back ] to return to the previous pag
e.

I looked here and still couldn't find your offer.



Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: plantsower
Funny, using Option to find the User Library doesn't work for me. It used to on my other laptop, but not this one.

Option is unnecessary In my High Sierra; clicking on Finder > Go shows "Library" (i.e. ~/Library) in the drop-down.
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#49221 - 06/26/18 06:54 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I deleted it because Urquhart's method is easier.
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#49224 - 06/26/18 07:59 AM Re: Removing Cookies [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
I just followed his instructions and found the "show library folder" is already checked, but it still doesn't show in my "Go" dropdown list.


Originally Posted By: artie505
I deleted it because Urquhart's method is easier.
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