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#42523 - 11/04/16 06:10 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
ryck Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Last night on Don Lemon's show (CNN) he played back a recording for a guest, Michael Moore. The recording was from a Fox show in which Rudi Guiliani predicted big email news to come in a couple of days, while laughing pretty much uncontrollably.

Guiliani's prediction was two days before the FBI announcement of the "Weiner" emails.

Wow! If that doesn't qualify for an investigation, I don't know what would.


Edited by ryck (11/04/16 06:15 AM)
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#42526 - 11/04/16 07:44 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: ryck]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: ryck
Originally Posted By: artie505
He's gonna throw the most dangerous and damaging temper tantrum in history if he loses...

What a visual…Donald Trump holding his breath and stamping his tiny feet. If it wasn't so extremely sad, we could all laugh.

Pink faces turn purple when their owners hold their breath; I wonder what color Trump's apricot face will turn?
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#42532 - 11/04/16 09:28 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 08/13/09
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: tacit

Joseph Goebbels has been quoted as saying if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it is true.


A corollary to that is people would rather hear what they believe than what is true.
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#42540 - 11/04/16 01:29 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: dkmarsh]
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Registered: 08/04/09
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Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

Quote:
The US is still not ready for a strong, confident, competent woman.

I think we are. The problem is the numerous obstacles to entry in the hands of a disproportionately powerful minority who are not. And even those desperate obstructionists are falling by the wayside.

I said the same thing about Obama, but sadly his election revealed a dark underbelly of racism I thought had pretty well gone by the wayside, but apparently was simply bubbling like a witches brew below the surface. From much of the 👿☠️👎✊ going on around here I am afraid anti-feminism is alive and rampant too.
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#42541 - 11/04/16 02:34 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Originally Posted By: tacit
Joseph Goebbels has been quoted as saying if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it is true.

And Abba Eban (1915-2002) coined a classic phrase, initially used against the Nazi information minister, Joseph Goebbels:
"Every time he opens his mouth, he subtracts from the sum of human knowledge."

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#42559 - 11/05/16 09:03 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/04/09
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I suppose that Trump thinks that rigging an election is OK so long as Republicans do it. Ruling Preserves Voting Rights for Thousands in North Carolina
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#42575 - 11/06/16 08:38 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: joemikeb]
ryck Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh
...desperate obstructionists are falling by the wayside.

Originally Posted By: joemikeb
I said the same thing about Obama, but sadly his election revealed a dark underbelly of racism I thought had pretty well gone by the wayside, but apparently was simply bubbling like a witches brew below the surface.

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

On Tuesday the American people can reject Donald Trump, a white-nationalist whose proposed ideas are in clear contrast to these words.

The world is hoping that America makes the right choice.


Edited by ryck (11/06/16 08:41 AM)
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#42576 - 11/06/16 08:42 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: ryck]
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AMEN!
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#42580 - 11/06/16 10:41 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

On Tuesday the American people can reject Donald Trump, a white-nationalist whose proposed ideas are in clear contrast to these words.

The world is hoping that America makes the right choice.

ryck,

You brought it all back to foundational basics. That says it all. And bless you for that!

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#42618 - 11/08/16 06:43 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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My hope (prayer?) is that by this time tomorrow we will have an elected president and won't still be waiting for the decision(s), court challenges, etc. 🙇🏻
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#42621 - 11/08/16 06:51 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: artie505
He's gonna throw the most dangerous and damaging temper tantrum in history if he loses...and for absolutely no other reason than that he lost. EXTREMELY crazy !

I think we can pretty much count on huge claims of election fraud from this point forward, regardless of who runs or who wins and loses.
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#42667 - 11/08/16 10:54 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: Virtual1]
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Oh...my...f!@#ing...god!

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#42668 - 11/08/16 11:42 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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What sort of chutzpah qua perverse irony is there to Señor Hitler's victory speech being closed out with the Rolling Stones' "You Can't Always Get What You Want"?! (It's not in the public domain, so the Stones should sue him.)

So, come January 20th Camp David becomes the new Berchtesgaden. What will be the new Wolfsschanze ('Wolf's Lair')?

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#42671 - 11/09/16 03:32 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
ok everybody, into the handbasket. we're going on a short trip...
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#42673 - 11/09/16 05:08 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: Virtual1]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Two possibilities:

1. Russia hacked the election and manipulated it.
2. The result really reflects the electorate.

Which is worse? I'm not sure.
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#42674 - 11/09/16 05:48 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Bottom line: MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN.

No matter how hard they try, they can't bring back the America of the 1950s ... which was the product of post-war euphoria ... unless, of course, the world goes to war again.

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#42675 - 11/09/16 06:37 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: grelber
So, come January 20th Camp David becomes the new Berchtesgaden.

I wonder if I can build a bunker that quickly?
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#42676 - 11/09/16 06:46 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: freelance]
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Originally Posted By: freelance
Originally Posted By: grelber
So, come January 20th Camp David becomes the new Berchtesgaden.

I wonder if I can build a bunker that quickly?

The bunker of the original was in Berlin (where the original ultimately did himself and Eva in).
As for building one, it would depend on how elegant (and deep) you wanted it to ward off apocalyptic intrusion. tongue

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#42677 - 11/09/16 07:13 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
ryck Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Two possibilities:

1. Russia hacked the election and manipulated it.
2. The result really reflects the electorate.

Which is worse? I'm not sure.

It may be hard to determine which is the worse of those two possibilities, but I think there is something possibly far worse.

This morning Trump will have (or already has had) the first of his daily briefings on the most secret information the President is given and, because he is the President-Elect, it will be repeated daily.

Given that Trump doesn't appear to trust anyone but his family, and only surrounds himself with syncophants, I fear for the containment of that information.


Edited by ryck (11/09/16 07:16 AM)
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#42680 - 11/09/16 08:19 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
Given that Trump doesn't appear to trust anyone but his family, and only surrounds himself with syncophants, I fear for the containment of that information.

I am just afraid 😱
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#42685 - 11/09/16 10:53 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: joemikeb]
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Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
I am just afraid 😱

I'm not afraid. We live six miles from ground zero.
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#42686 - 11/09/16 11:01 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: freelance]
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Number of electoral votes for Trump: 279
Number of Republican senators: 51
Number of Republican representatives: 239
Number of horsemen: 4
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#42688 - 11/09/16 11:28 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
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Jon, the reply is to you only because you were the nearest.

...awe, you guys are just so negative..... confused crazy shocked blush

Isn't our government so designed as to protect us from any one portion of the three being totally in charge of all things? Hasn't that proven functional historically?

[Sarcasm] Personally, I'm just hoping that there is a possibility of good advisors actually providing good advice and then that advice being followed......is that too much to hope for? [/Sarcasm]

....and I am AMAZED at the result of our election process!
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#42689 - 11/09/16 11:44 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: MacManiac]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Of course he will pick good advisers (sarcasm). People of intelligence and integrity, such as Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, and Rudolph Giuliani. Donald Trump’s Victory Is Met With Shock Across a Wide Political Divide
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#42690 - 11/09/16 12:41 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: MacManiac]
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Originally Posted By: MacManiac
...awe, you guys are just so negative..... confused crazy shocked blush
Isn't our government so designed as to protect us from any one portion of the three being totally in charge of all things? Hasn't that proven functional historically?
[Sarcasm] Personally, I'm just hoping that there is a possibility of good advisors actually providing good advice and then that advice being followed......is that too much to hope for? [/Sarcasm]
....and I am AMAZED at the result of our election process!

A remote possibility, mooted at in times past, is that the Electoral College could do as its component members choose, not as the vote 'suggested'; they are not bound to do the latter. One can only dream ....

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