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Re: Our next president?!!
ryck #42106 10/09/16 01:23 AM
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I can't imagine how he'll use Bill Clinton's actions to either justify or even dignify his own.

It'll be interesting to see how he'll try to dignify his comments, like these from the Howard Stern Show…..comments that CNN would not air because they are too vulgar for television.

He's already apologized by citing Bill Clinton, and I doubt that he'll back down on that any more than he backs down on anything else.

And Melania has said that she hopes people have accepted his apology which, I think, ranks her right up there in the stupidity charts with Katrina Pierson.

Both should learn when to keep their mouths shut.

I wonder how Ivanka and her husband can even face the other congregants at Shabbos services and what they'll atone for on Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement).

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artie505 #42109 10/09/16 02:05 PM
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Here's a quick laugh to cheer everyone up prior to the debate today. It's the first time Carly Simon has ever allowed You're So Vain to be used in political advertising.


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Re: Our next president?!!
ryck #42110 10/09/16 05:28 PM
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Did you catch the changed line, i.e. "Your scarf face, it was apricot"? grin laugh


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artie505 #42111 10/09/16 07:50 PM
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No…I missed it (although I will say it's a great edit). Good one, thanks for the catch….it gave me a second real guffaw from the video. The first was the fourth graphic in the line "And all the girls dreamed that they'd be your partner, they'd be your partner….". laugh laugh

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ryck #42112 10/09/16 10:18 PM
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This Far Side cartoon just popped into my head.


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artie505 #42113 10/10/16 05:05 AM
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Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I got the weirdest feeling that Trump had a bead in his ear and was being coached or, at the least, had someone tugging on his reins. crazy


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artie505 #42114 10/10/16 01:18 PM
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I hadn't thought that and, while it's the kind of thing I wouldn't put past him, I don't think Trump would take anyone's advice…even delivered right in his ear. This is a person who absolutely, in any situation, thinks he's the smartest person in the room.


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ryck #42121 10/11/16 03:49 AM
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I hadn't thought that and, while it's the kind of thing I wouldn't put past him, I don't think Trump would take anyone's advice…even delivered right in his ear. This is a person who absolutely, in any situation, thinks he's the smartest person in the room.

Well, then, if he cut his final answer short immediately after complementing Hillary without coaching as opposed to her having gone on to promote herself after saying virtually nothing complimentary about him he - in a sense - gets the "Class Act Of The Night" award...if nothing else.


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artie505 #42135 10/13/16 01:08 PM
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The athletes who are tarred with Trump's attempt to dismiss his vulgarity as "locker room banter" clearly have much more "class" than Trump. To use the words of former NBA player John Amaechi who played from 1995 to 2003 for the Cavaliers, Jazz, and Magic:

"We had conversations that were about politics, that were about the systemic racism, were about the tax advantages of living in Florida as an athlete. These things came first. These were the things that we talked about.

Whether in our locker room or in our planes flying across the country, never once did I hear an athlete talk about how they had abused somebody and certainly not with the kind of gleeful pride we heard from Trump."


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ryck #42137 10/13/16 02:30 PM
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Oh, Trump's got absolutely NO class; he merely seized a golden moment and looked good and scored big in doing so.


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artie505 #42138 10/13/16 05:46 PM
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Never did the term "douche bag" apply so perfectly, both literally (a small syringe for douching the vagina, esp. as a contraceptive measure) and metaphorically (a loathsome or contemptible person), as it does to Señor Hitler.
If Obama and Clinton smell like sulfur, he must smell like fetid perineal effluvium. frown mad Blech!

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grelber #42139 10/13/16 10:46 PM
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This political cartoon says it all: Chapatte on Donald Trump and Lady Liberty


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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
This political cartoon says it all: Chapatte on Donald Trump and Lady Liberty

Waaaay too tame, especially given the latest revelations from those he's accosted over the years.
For one, the groping should probably be from the front. For another, he should probably be in serious lip-lock.

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Waaaay too mild, especially given the latest revelations from those he's accosted over the years.

The upper house of the NSW state parliament in Australia was a bit stronger. They unanimously carried a motion condemning Trump for his for ‘misogynistic, hateful’ comments and, in the motion, they referred to Trump as "…a revolting slug unfit for office."

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Scary and thoroughly depressing:
Even if Trump supporters have a normal IQ, they by and large have mentalities of toadstools. This is no more evident than in the streeters (off-the-cuff interviews) at Trump rallies where they demonstrate little, if any, rationale (cogent or otherwise) for their professed intention to vote for Señor Hitler, no matter what.
All the news outlets regularly feature such streeters, but the best presentations often come from quasi-news programs, such as The Daily Show with Trevor Noah — and I strongly recommend watching last night's edition (which you can find streaming on Comedy Central). Absolutely mind-boggling!

EDIT: I've been advised that Comedy Central streaming directly via the Internet might not be available in certain Canadian jurisdictions. It may be available on one of the subscription services, such as Netflix or Crave (although I don't have a clue in that regard).

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If anyone wanted proof that Trump is paranoid, read US election 2016: Transcript of Trump speech denying groping. This may be the first time he has ever failed at bullying because, in the past, he has been able to exert financial pressure on his victims. He has no such leverage on either the Democrats or the NY Times. Despite flaws in press coverage, the Founding Fathers were very wise in making freedom of the press the first of the amendments in the Bill of Rights.

Trump doesn't know how to handle people who won't be bullied.


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jchuzi #42144 10/14/16 01:28 PM
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Trump doesn't know how to handle people who won't be bullied.

Good point.

He's currently making noises about lawsuits but my guess is that they're hollow threats. Trump must know that lawsuits would have no effect on the election outcome because they couldn't even get to the discovery stage before the election date has passed. Meanwhile he would have spent a pile of money on his expensive lawyers.


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I watched Michelle Obama's New Hampshire speech in full. Very reasoned, very articulate, very powerful.

I don't know how any Trump supporter could hear that speech and not hang their heads.

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ryck #42147 10/14/16 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: ryck
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Trump doesn't know how to handle people who won't be bullied.

Good point.

He's currently making noises about lawsuits but my guess is that they're hollow threats. Trump must know that lawsuits would have no effect on the election outcome because they couldn't even get to the discovery stage before the election date has passed. Meanwhile he would have spent a pile of money on his expensive lawyers.

He'll sue, and he won't even care if his suits ultimately fail!

His history is that he's just plain litigious and is happy even if he loses as long as it costs someone else time, money, and emotional energy.

It's his way of bullying those who won't be bullied.


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I watched Michelle Obama's New Hampshire speech in full. Very reasoned, very articulate, very powerful.

I did too, and I agree. It was extremely powerful. When she described the discomfort women feel when men make rude comments, stare, move in too close I thought about how widespread that effect has become.

I can think of more than a few instances when I have been on an elevator, for example, with a woman I didn't know. Sometimes you can sense the tension yourself and you just know the woman is made uncomfortable, perhaps even frightened, simply by being alone with a strange man. What a dreadful commentary on our times.


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artie505 #42152 10/14/16 09:47 PM
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He'll sue, and he won't even care if his suits ultimately fail!

His history is that he's just plain litigious and is happy even if he loses as long as it costs someone else time, money, and emotional energy.

It's his way of bullying those who won't be bullied.

Between Trumps posturing, his veiled and not so veiled threats, and his encouragement of his stalwarts to post armed patrols at polling places in low income neighborhoods to "prevent voter fraud" (a.k.a. any vote cast by blacks, hispanics, or Democrats of any race) I have to wonder if he is not hoping to at least create a constitutional crises if he loses. Certainly he and his surrogates are doing their best to do that here in Texas. As a result there are more registered voters and a higher percentage of registered voters in the state's history and some polls are saying the margin between Trump and Clinton is less than the confidence interval in the statistics.

The state attorney general would be certain to contest the results of any close election in Texas if Clinton should win, but he will be pretty busy with his own trial on criminal fraud and perjury so he may let it go.


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...I have to wonder if he is not hoping to at least create a constitutional crises if he loses.

He could, indeed, and it looks like he intends to, cause a Constitutional crisis by challenging the results in close states...that on top of his apparently forthcoming refusal to concede to Hillary should she win. (Or he could cause an entirely different kind of Constitutional crisis if his efforts to prevent people from voting result in Hillary's challenging the results in specific districts, if not entire states.)

But crisis or not, if he refuses to concede if Hillary wins she'll be a VERY embattled President and America will be a VERY divided country from day one.

And that first "if" should probably be read as "when".

Edit: Y'know, I'll amend that by saying that his intentions may not be malevolent as they appear to be...that he and everything he says and does may simply be "innocent" byproducts of his egomaniacal inability to ever admit that he's been wrong...or lost.

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jchuzi #42157 10/16/16 12:23 PM
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Lewis Carroll must have had this election in mind when he wrote Alice In Wonderland.

And it gets a bit more like that every day. Now we have Trump suggesting that Hillary must have been on performance-enhancing drugs in the last debate.

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Let's imagine that an ordinary citizen (i.e. not Donald Trump) was raving that there is an international conspiracy to elect Clinton and that she was on drugs during the debate. His relatives would probably move to have him committed for psychiatric observation.


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The lengths to which Trump will go to convince himself that he didn't lose fair and square or that he didn't just plain screw up (and not just in this particular instance) continue to astonish me.

The interesting thing about this latest dumb-ass skata, though, is that because both Trump and Hillary are at an age at which doctors begin prescribing drugs (regardless of whether their patients actually need them), both of them may be taking substances that are verboten in the sports world, but for other than performance-enhancing reasons.

Do you thinks he's insightful enough to have run his own blood through a lab before making this latest preposterous accusation?


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