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#41437 - 08/09/16 06:29 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
The Times tried to report what happened....

What happened is that one of Trump's supporters showed shock over the comment and the Times did NOT report it.

After looking at the video again it now appears to me that they edited out the man's shock and left his rolling his eyes at his neighbor's reaction as his reaction, i.e. they rewrote history.

Shame on the Times!


Edited by artie505 (08/09/16 10:15 PM)
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#41438 - 08/09/16 06:53 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Here's the Times editorial: Further Into the Muck With Mr. Trump

Interesting how the editorial mentions that the man's jaw dropped, but it, embarrassingly, has been edited out of the video.
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#41439 - 08/10/16 01:53 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
Much as I might agree with BBC's analysis of the U. S. presidential race, To the best of my knowledge they have never claimed to be unbiased in their reporting.

All reporting is biased. Otherwise all news sources would just be stylistic variations on a theme. Just look at Fox News vs any other outlet. You just have to choose your "poison".

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#41440 - 08/10/16 02:03 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: artie505
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Just when you thought that Trump could not stoop lower: Donald Trump Suggests ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Act Against Hillary Clinton The reactions of the audience are even more appalling. If this is the American electorate, I'm profoundly ashamed. And Thomas Jefferson is turning over in his grave.

The man has obliquely encouraged rioting and the assassination of a political rival, and blatantly committed treason...all with impunity, and his followers love it.
This election has changed America very much for the worse, and it isn't even close to over.
I think that the wrong people are being targeted for deportation!

Ain't it grand?! crazy tongue

In the same spirit (of tit for tat) I would suggest a drone strike using a Hellfire missile (or two) on the next Tromp [sic] gathering.

Or perhaps old school: "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."
Does the Republican candidate and scene remind anyone else of Colonel Walter E. Kurtz in Apocalypse Now (1979) or Apocalypse Now Redux (2001, now the definitive version)? Col Kurtz looks peculiarly ~ positively sane when compared to DJT.

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#41441 - 08/10/16 06:12 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
In Texas the jury rolls are pulled from the driver's license database.

There's a "bad drivers" joke there somewhere I'm having trouble teasing out at the moment...
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#41444 - 08/11/16 12:03 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
And just when you thought Señor Hitler couldn't get any crazier:

Donald Trump Calls Obama ‘Founder of ISIS’ and Says It Honors Him

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#41446 - 08/11/16 01:14 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
His continuing to pander to the crazies who are already in his pocket rather than attempting to win converts or recoup losses is either mystifying or an affirmation of his narcissistic need to hear people cheer at whatever crackpot idea has popped into his head in the last 5 seconds.
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#41447 - 08/11/16 03:28 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Speaking of Hitler, Mike Pence Hints at Trump’s Muslim Ban Extending to Other Religions Looks like Trump's running mate may be as bad as he. And, there is a rather strong implication that Trump's purported buddy, Vladimir Putin, may be trying to rig the election. Hack of Democrats’ Accounts Was Wider Than Believed, Officials Say.
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#41448 - 08/11/16 05:50 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: grelber
And just when you thought Señor Hitler couldn't get any crazier:

Donald Trump Calls Obama ‘Founder of ISIS’ and Says It Honors Him

Obama now? Didn't he once say that Hilary was the one that founded ISIS? Seems like he'll point that stick at anyone...
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#41451 - 08/11/16 06:15 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: Virtual1]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: NYTimes
“In many respects, you know, they honor President Obama,” Mr. Trump told a raucous and rowdy crowd in Florida on Wednesday night. “He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS.” He added, “I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton.”
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#41452 - 08/11/16 10:24 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Donald Trump, Insisting He Won’t Change His Style, Repeats Claim Obama Founded ISIS. You aren't stupid if you make a mistake. You ARE stupid if you continue making the same mistake and expect a different result. Unfortunately, The Donald also appears to be insane (literally).
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#41453 - 08/11/16 02:18 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
Unfortunately, The Donald also appears to be insane (literally).

Yup…nuttier than a fruitcake.

The only thing I find as nutty as Trump is the continuing support he gets from senior Republicans with their comments like "Well, he won the nomination fair and square", and blah, blah, blah. I'm beginning to think they all need to go into the shop for a mental rebuild.
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#41454 - 08/11/16 02:45 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: ryck]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: ryck
The only thing I find as nutty as Trump is the continuing support he gets from senior Republicans with their comments like "Well, he won the nomination fair and square", and blah, blah, blah. I'm beginning to think they all need to go into the shop for a mental rebuild.

They're more concerned about their own fates if they don't support him than they are about America's possible fate if they do. frown


Edited by artie505 (08/11/16 03:10 PM)
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#41455 - 08/11/16 03:27 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: artie505
They're more concerned about their own fates if they don't support him than they are about America's possible fate if they do.

Their own and everybody else's fates are to turn into ash in a nuclear holocaust if the Wonder Chimp™ gets anywhere near the nuclear codes. The only survivors will be ants and cockroaches.

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#41456 - 08/12/16 12:32 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/03/09
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Originally Posted By: grelber

Their own and everybody else's fates are to turn into ash in a nuclear holocaust if the Wonder Chimp™ gets anywhere near the nuclear codes. The only survivors will be ants and cockroaches.


Oh, come now, that's hyperbole.

There are many species of bacteria and archaea that would survive, as would the weird life forms around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. It's entirely possible a number of plants might survive as well.
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#41457 - 08/12/16 07:45 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: tacit
Originally Posted By: grelber

Their own and everybody else's fates are to turn into ash in a nuclear holocaust if the Wonder Chimp™ gets anywhere near the nuclear codes. The only survivors will be ants and cockroaches.

Oh, come now, that's hyperbole.
There are many species of bacteria and archaea that would survive, as would the weird life forms around deep-sea hydrothermal vents. It's entirely possible a number of plants might survive as well.

Granted. But grant me the poetic license. Just because it's "hypobole" (neologism for understatement) doesn't vitiate the central "theme".

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#41458 - 08/12/16 08:59 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
My guess is that there's facetious intent in tacit's response that you've missed.
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#41459 - 08/12/16 10:45 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: tacit
There are many species of bacteria and archaea that would survive, as would the weird life forms around deep-sea hydrothermal vents.

As long as that weird life form from New York expires with the rest of us.


Edited by ryck (08/12/16 10:45 AM)
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#41460 - 08/12/16 10:49 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: artie505
My guess is that there's facetious intent in tacit's response that you've missed.

Didn't miss it. Added to it. smirk

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#41462 - 08/13/16 01:21 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Trump Risks Hitting Ceiling as Swing Voters Say, ‘Enough’
  • Instead of widening his appeal, Donald J. Trump continues to alienate certain groups, leaving him stagnant in the polls.
  • Loyal Republicans, anti-establishment independents, Clinton-averse Democrats and other potential voters are turning away from him.

Rah!

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#41463 - 08/13/16 03:22 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Let's count ourselves lucky that Trump is not as Macchiavellian as Hitler or Stalin. He wears his numerous character flaws on his sleeve and isn't sneaky enough to become a good manipulator. Of course, his die-hard followers don't care.

I can't believe that he is actually stupid (despite evidence to the contrary) but I do believe that his ego and insecurity make it impossible for him to slough off criticism. That's to the advantage of the US in this election. Donald Trump’s Other Campaign Foe: The ‘Lowest Form of Life’ News Media


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#41465 - 08/13/16 07:27 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: jchuzi]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: jchuzi
I can't believe that he is actually stupid (despite evidence to the contrary) but I do believe that his ego and insecurity make it impossible for him to slough off criticism.

Despite the fact that he is a complete political novice, Trump won't believe that anyone could possibly know more than him about politics. Real experts in the Republican party try to save him, and their party, by urging him to stay on message….but he ignores them and shoots off his mouth. I think that's stupid, really stupid.
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#41467 - 08/14/16 07:37 PM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: ryck]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Mr. Rove later told people he believed Mr. Trump was confused and scared in anticipation of the general election, according to people who have heard Mr. Rove’s account.

That struck a chord with me, because Trump's extraordinary concession that he may actually lose the election, its language in particular, had already gotten me wondering if he's scared of the Presidency and is (perhaps subconsciously) not actively trying to win the election...using "just continuing to be myself" as an excuse for (perhaps also subconsciously) actively trying to lose it.

This may be a rerun of "The Producers": he may have gotten into the campaign to promote his brand with the expectation of losing, and having won is hoist. (Has "Springtime for Señor Hitler" turned to winter?)

Maybe he's not all that stupid? confused


Edited by artie505 (08/15/16 01:44 AM)
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#41470 - 08/15/16 01:34 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: artie505
Has "Springtime for Senõr Hitler" turned to winter?

Surely you mean Señor Hitler.

Winter is coming. And this could be a real-life rendition of Game of Thrones. crazy

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#41471 - 08/15/16 01:43 AM Re: Our next president?!! [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: grelber
Originally Posted By: artie505
Has "Springtime for Senõr Hitler" turned to winter?

Surely you mean Señor Hitler.

Most assuredly! crazy

Edit: Corrected.


Edited by artie505 (08/15/16 01:50 AM)
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