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The Demise of Adobe Flash
#37575 12/03/15 06:51 PM
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joemikeb #37576 12/03/15 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: joemikeb

Of course, that would be Name.

'Twould appear that that new keyboard ain't helpin' with slips of the finger. tongue wink

The larger questions are:
• How is Adobe going to make the transition to Animate in terms of browser plugins?
• And how are websites which currently make use of Flash Player going to do so in a reasonable/workable fashion?

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grelber #37581 12/03/15 10:13 PM
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Actually it is not only the name that is going away. It is being replaced with an HTML 5 based tool, so the name and technology are being deep sixed. Flash does not play nice with touch interfaces and the biggest chunk of the market is moving to touch interface, ie. iOS.


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joemikeb #37600 12/04/15 11:34 AM
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I too eagerly await the new 'Flash". But hope some clever chap or chapette provides a short tutorial (with links) on best way/technique re first removing all the old Flash bits & pieces. I will be quite surprised if Adobe does that.


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grelber #37608 12/04/15 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: grelber
The larger questions are:
• How is Adobe going to make the transition to Animate in terms of browser plugins?
• And how are websites which currently make use of Flash Player going to do so in a reasonable/workable fashion?

Adobe makes their money from the developers so Animate could be just an HTML 5 development tool. There would be no need for plugins, any HTML 5 complaint browser would work. That would save Adobe a ton of money developing plugins they give away free. Sounds like a sound marketing plan to me.

Websites currently using Flash will have to convert to HTML 5. There are fewer and fewer Flash dependent sites because they freeze out a huge number of iOS users and don't really play nice with any touch based smart phones, tablets, etc. Not even Adobe can ignore 60 to 80% of the internet market.


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joemikeb #37609 12/04/15 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: joemikeb
There are fewer and fewer Flash dependent sites because they freeze out a huge number of iOS users and don't really play nice with any touch based smart phones, tablets, etc.

It's interesting to see the "why" there. As far as I can tell, there is one fundamental thing missing from touch interfaces that 95% of flash games and apps require. "mouse-hover". There's simply no way to move your mouse somewhere to get a list of options or stats or something, without clicking it. I know there are touch interfaces that support finger hover over a touch pad, but they're not very common yet. The same goes for force-detection. (though that one's coming to iOS from what I've read?) Those might finally fix this hole, albeit too late.


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joemikeb #37614 12/04/15 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: joemikeb
Adobe makes their money from the developers so Animate could be just an HTML 5 development tool. There would be no need for plugins, any HTML 5 complaint browser would work. That would save Adobe a ton of money developing plugins they give away free. Sounds like a sound marketing plan to me.

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Websites currently using Flash will have to convert to HTML 5. ...

Such sites — at least the ones that matter to me — often want me to allow Flash content, which I invariably decline to do, which in turn doesn't seem to affect my interactions with the sites. Mayhap they were/are anticipating the HTML5 development?

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grelber #37725 12/10/15 03:22 PM
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One wonders when the transition/conversion might occur.

Today Adobe released Flash Player 20.0.0.228 (up from 19.0.0.245).
Side note: When I installed it, it came up as version 20.0.0.235.

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grelber #38788 02/11/16 03:16 PM
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One continues to wonder ...

For a moribund app this one seems to be remarkably alive, with updates coming out almost bi-weekly (most recently version 20.0.0.306).

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grelber #39381 03/11/16 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: grelber
One continues to wonder ...
For a moribund app this one seems to be remarkably alive, with updates coming out almost bi-weekly (most recently version 20.0.0.306).

And a month later, version 21.0.0.182 hit the streets.

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grelber #39388 03/11/16 08:22 PM
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Well, thank goodness they're staying on top of things until nobody uses Flash any more!

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artie505 #39442 03/14/16 12:12 PM
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Well, thank goodness they're staying on top of things until nobody uses Flash any more!

It's only natural to expect more splashing just before they slip under the waves


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