Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Yes, I'm at it again. Fresh from my "success" at migrating from a PPC to an Intel machine, I have updated from 10.5.6 to 10.5.8. All seemed to go well, except that when running Disk Utility to Repair Permissions again - I ran it before the update - I am confronted by an enormous number of differences/repairs. I know this is a bit vague, but is/has this been normal in Leopard. I have read somewhere that a lot of it is irrelevant anyway. As I say, I know I am being a bit vague and am prepared to list the lot if it will help. Also, given that there are still quite a few other "items" which require updating, should I be repairing permissions after each indiviual update, or should I just run all updates together and reair permissions at the end. I seem to remember that updating, upgrading, repairing permissions, etc. has been "a bone of contention" with varying approaches, but I would appreciate any advice/suggestions, as usual. Regards. Mike
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Contrary to my practices in the past, I have stopped routinely repairing permissions when installing updates. I still, however, rebuild the directory with Disk Warrior beforehand, to insure that there is no directory damage. Whether or not it is necessary, I install only one update at a time but I only run DW before the first update if I am installing several of them sequentially.
I can't claim that all the above is necessary but I have not had any problems. Oh yes, I also make sure that I have complete backup before installing a major update (such as going from 10.5.7 to 10.5.8, for example).
Jon
macOS 11.7.10, iMac Retina 5K 27-inch, late 2014, 3.5 GHz Intel Core i5, 1 TB fusion drive, 16 GB RAM, Epson SureColor P600, Photoshop CC, Lightroom CC, MS Office 365
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Aug 2009
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if I remember correctly, the last couple of Leopard updates were notorious for excessive permissions repair. don't worry about them.
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Here is the Apple Knowledge Base article with an extensive list of permission repairs that you can safely ignore.
On a Mac since 1984. Currently: 24" M1 iMac, M2 Pro Mac mini with 27" BenQ monitor, M2 Macbook Air, MacOS 14.x; iPhones, iPods (yes, still) and iPads.
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Aug 2009
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Hi Jon I was thinking of doing them individually and seeing that "things" were still working. I will dispense with the idea/thought of repeated permission repairs. Oh yes, I have made a complete backup. Many thanks. Regards. Mike
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Aug 2009
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Thanks for the re-assurance. Regards. Mike
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Aug 2009
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Ummm. There are quite a lot, many of which I now recognise. Thanks for your interest. Regards. Mike
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Mike if you have some extended reading time, you might want to look at this FIneTunedMac thread on the topic of permission repairs.
If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?
— Albert Einstein
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Hi Joe Thanks, I have just scrolled down the thread and will, when I "have some extended reading time", take a good look at it. Regards. Mike
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Sep 2009
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Here is the Apple Knowledge Base article with an extensive list of permission repairs that you can safely ignore. Should be a footnote somewhere there indicating: These spurious reports in Disk Utility are due to a general design SNAFU in the overall system (and components) update procedures. <sigh>
"Regardless of how Apple corporate wants to portray its products,  the Mac isn't a machine for the masses any more than red wine is  the preferred beverage at baseball games.  :  So who cares about ubiquity anyway?" --D. Story
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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This issue has been in Leopard from the beginning. There was a long discussion on MacFixit about it and people conceded that the database update was not working well, hence a slow and irrelevant permissions repair. As everybody said, you can safely ignore these. A really cheap but good upgrade of the OS, that is, Snow Leopard, took care of this problem.
Alex 3.1 GHz 13" MacBook Pro 2015, 8 GB RAM, OS 10.11.2, Office 2011, TimeWarner Cable 2.8 GHz Xeon Mac Pro 2010, 16 GB RAM, OS 10.11.2, Office 2011, LAN
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Sep 2009
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A really cheap but good upgrade of the OS, that is, Snow Leopard, took care of this problem. We won't really know that for sure until a few more updates (OS, Security, QuickTime, iTunes, etc., etc.) roll out. See you in 6 months... and if you're right, THEN i'll do the happy dance.
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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I think you are already doing it!
Alex 3.1 GHz 13" MacBook Pro 2015, 8 GB RAM, OS 10.11.2, Office 2011, TimeWarner Cable 2.8 GHz Xeon Mac Pro 2010, 16 GB RAM, OS 10.11.2, Office 2011, LAN
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Aug 2009
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Thanks for your response. I intend getting - I hope - "A really cheap but good upgrade of the OS", but I think it will probably cause more incompatibilities than the move to Intel and Leopard. However, as it will be the even cheaper "Snow Leopard Up-to Date Program", I guess there's nothing to lose by giving it a try. See, I'm getting a bit nonchalant about all this updating/upgrading stuff. Actually, I'm not, as I will be taking it all gradually and steadily. I'm still in a state of shock and exhaustion from my recent trials and tribulations, which would undoubtedly have been greater but for the help and support received from FTM. Anyway, thanks again. Regards. Mike
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
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Joined: Aug 2009
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Good luck! On a personal note, I have no major issues with SL. Rosetta works well and my old Acrobat 7 and Photoshop CS do their job just fine. The only problem was Office 2004 requiring a reinstall. Some report printer problems, but they all seem to be fixable unless a really archaic printer is dealt with. Our members may correct me, but in my opinion, SL caused much less trouble than Leopard. Understandably, because Leopard had a lot of new features, but SL is a thoughtful revamp of Leopard, with no major new additions, as per Apple.
Last edited by macnerd10; 09/14/09 11:11 PM.
Alex 3.1 GHz 13" MacBook Pro 2015, 8 GB RAM, OS 10.11.2, Office 2011, TimeWarner Cable 2.8 GHz Xeon Mac Pro 2010, 16 GB RAM, OS 10.11.2, Office 2011, LAN
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