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Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
#3605 09/13/09 04:40 PM
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Yes, I'm at it again. shocked blush
Fresh from my "success" at migrating from a PPC to an Intel machine, I have updated from 10.5.6 to 10.5.8. All seemed to go well, except that when running Disk Utility to Repair Permissions again - I ran it before the update - I am confronted by an enormous number of differences/repairs. I know this is a bit vague, but is/has this been normal in Leopard. I have read somewhere that a lot of it is irrelevant anyway. As I say, I know I am being a bit vague and am prepared to list the lot if it will help.
Also, given that there are still quite a few other "items" which require updating, should I be repairing permissions after each indiviual update, or should I just run all updates together and reair permissions at the end.
I seem to remember that updating, upgrading, repairing permissions, etc. has been "a bone of contention" with varying approaches, but I would appreciate any advice/suggestions, as usual. Regards. Mike

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MikeS #3607 09/13/09 04:55 PM
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Contrary to my practices in the past, I have stopped routinely repairing permissions when installing updates. I still, however, rebuild the directory with Disk Warrior beforehand, to insure that there is no directory damage. Whether or not it is necessary, I install only one update at a time but I only run DW before the first update if I am installing several of them sequentially.

I can't claim that all the above is necessary but I have not had any problems. Oh yes, I also make sure that I have complete backup before installing a major update (such as going from 10.5.7 to 10.5.8, for example).


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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
MikeS #3609 09/13/09 05:20 PM
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if I remember correctly, the last couple of Leopard updates were notorious for excessive permissions repair. don't worry about them.
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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
roger #3612 09/13/09 06:17 PM
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Here is the Apple Knowledge Base article with an extensive list of permission repairs that you can safely ignore.


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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
jchuzi #3618 09/13/09 07:10 PM
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Hi Jon
I was thinking of doing them individually and seeing that "things" were still working. I will dispense with the idea/thought of repeated permission repairs.
Oh yes, I have made a complete backup. Many thanks. Regards. Mike

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roger #3619 09/13/09 07:11 PM
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Thanks for the re-assurance. Regards. Mike

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Ira L #3621 09/13/09 07:12 PM
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Ummm. There are quite a lot, many of which I now recognise. Thanks for your interest. Regards. Mike

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MikeS #3622 09/13/09 07:17 PM
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Mike if you have some extended reading time, you might want to look at this FIneTunedMac thread on the topic of permission repairs.


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joemikeb #3623 09/13/09 07:23 PM
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Hi Joe
Thanks, I have just scrolled down the thread and will, when I "have some extended reading time", take a good look at it. Regards. Mike

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Ira L #3634 09/13/09 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ira L
Here is the Apple Knowledge Base article with an extensive list of permission repairs that you can safely ignore.

grin Should be a footnote somewhere there indicating:

These spurious reports in Disk Utility are due to a general design SNAFU in the overall system (and components) update procedures.

crazy <sigh>



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Re: Updating 10.5.6 to 10.5.8
MikeS #3657 09/14/09 01:55 AM
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This issue has been in Leopard from the beginning. There was a long discussion on MacFixit about it and people conceded that the database update was not working well, hence a slow and irrelevant permissions repair. As everybody said, you can safely ignore these. A really cheap but good upgrade of the OS, that is, Snow Leopard, took care of this problem.


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macnerd10 #3662 09/14/09 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: macnerd10
A really cheap but good upgrade of the OS, that is, Snow Leopard, took care of this problem.

We won't really know that for sure until a few more updates (OS, Security, QuickTime, iTunes, etc., etc.) roll out.

See you in 6 months... and if you're right, THEN i'll do the happy dance.

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Hal Itosis #3691 09/14/09 06:12 PM
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I think you are already doing it! grin


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macnerd10 #3700 09/14/09 08:01 PM
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Thanks for your response. I intend getting - I hope - "A really cheap but good upgrade of the OS", but I think it will probably cause more incompatibilities than the move to Intel and Leopard. However, as it will be the even cheaper "Snow Leopard Up-to Date Program", I guess there's nothing to lose by giving it a try.
See, I'm getting a bit nonchalant about all this updating/upgrading stuff. cool
Actually, I'm not, as I will be taking it all gradually and steadily. tongue
I'm still in a state of shock and exhaustion from my recent trials and tribulations, which would undoubtedly have been greater but for the help and support received from FTM. blush blush
Anyway, thanks again. Regards. Mike

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MikeS #3721 09/14/09 11:10 PM
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Good luck! On a personal note, I have no major issues with SL. Rosetta works well and my old Acrobat 7 and Photoshop CS do their job just fine. The only problem was Office 2004 requiring a reinstall. Some report printer problems, but they all seem to be fixable unless a really archaic printer is dealt with. Our members may correct me, but in my opinion, SL caused much less trouble than Leopard. Understandably, because Leopard had a lot of new features, but SL is a thoughtful revamp of Leopard, with no major new additions, as per Apple.

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