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#35767 - 08/25/15 04:07 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: ryck]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: ryck
This may be the first generation not to know what it means to be alone with their thoughts.

We grew up knowing what it means to drive a car or go for a walk without a companion, or without inevitable electronic interruption. This generation doesn't and I'm not sure this is a particularly good development.

I've long been convinced that so many people are constantly distracted from what's going on inside their own heads because they can't stand to hear what's going on inside their own heads.

For many, iPods were, remain, and will always be the greatest invention EVER.
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#35768 - 08/25/15 04:29 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: artie505
For many, iPods were, remain, and will always be the greatest invention EVER.

My Watch does everything the iPod did/does plus a whole lot more and I don't need earbuds.
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#35770 - 08/25/15 04:57 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
I'll stick with my ukulele for entertainment. cool

Perhaps you remember the mnemonic for tuning same: My dog has fleas.
That's all the more interesting since I just found out that:
ORIGIN late 19th cent.: from Hawaiian, literally 'jumping flea.'

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#35771 - 08/25/15 05:05 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
Originally Posted By: artie505
For many, iPods were, remain, and will always be the greatest invention EVER.

My Watch does everything the iPod did/does plus a whole lot more and I don't need earbuds.

Nope! You can't blast music inside your head without earbuds, so your Watch can't save you from your own thoughts a la iPod; it's useless in the context I described. (Edit: See my post # 35773)

(Can you actually listen to music with your watch, but without earbuds, and hear anything worth listening to?)

On the other hand, though, even excluding music, perhaps the multitude of ways to distract you from what's going on inside your head with which your Watch provides you makes it your personal panacea if, in fact, you need one.


Edited by artie505 (08/26/15 01:16 AM)
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#35772 - 08/25/15 05:12 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09

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(Can you actually listen to music with your watch, but without earbuds, and hear anything worth listening to?)

Bluetooth headphones.
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#35773 - 08/25/15 05:34 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

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(Can you actually listen to music with your watch, but without earbuds, and hear anything worth listening to?)

Bluetooth headphones.

Then I stand corrected.

But buying a Watch and Bluetooth headphones simply to avoid earbuds doesn't strike me as much of an investment at all (particularly) for somebody who has no need for anything more than music.

And, of course, you can't run a Watch without also running an iPhone, so hiding from reality gets awfully costly when you go beyond a basic iPod that fills the bill quite nicely, thank you.


Edited by artie505 (08/25/15 06:46 PM)
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#35774 - 08/26/15 02:45 AM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
... we are getting old and [it's] all too easy to forget that kids entering college today ...

Yup. Definitely the reality version of No Country for Old Men — but without the friend-o (maybe). crazy

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#35776 - 08/26/15 07:43 AM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: dkmarsh]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

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(Can you actually listen to music with your watch, but without earbuds, and hear anything worth listening to?)

Bluetooth headphones.

NO BLUETOOTH HEADPHONES ARE REQUIRED! There is actually a speaker in the Watch. The fidelity is voice grade — about like AM radio. More than adequate for telephone calls but just okay for music. Also there is only a limited amount of storage on the Watch for audio content but it is enough to be usable.

Full disclosure: I connect my bluetooth headphones either to the iPhone or iPad, not the Watch. In fact I am not sure I can connect anything to the watch via bluetooth but the iPhone and that is all controlled by a built-in iPhone app in iOS 8 and 9. I use the speaker and microphone in the Watch primarily to make and receive phone calls without having to dig the iPhone out of my pocket or find where it is buried on my desk. For those of you who are old enough to remember this, using the watch to make phone calls reminds me of Dick Tracy's wrist radio only a lot smaller and more powerful. The only time I actually played music from the Watch was simply to prove to myself it could be done — it can cool .
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#35781 - 08/26/15 12:36 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: joemikeb]
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In fact I am not sure I can connect anything to the watch via bluetooth but the iPhone...

Use Bluetooth headphones with your Apple Watch
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#35783 - 08/26/15 12:55 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: dkmarsh]
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Registered: 08/04/09
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Thanks for that information, I am obviously still learning about the Watch. I still prefer to connect my earphones to the iPhone. (It just dawned on me I have noise cancelling earphones and not headphones — no microphone 😝) Besides that the iPhone has many times more storage capacity for audio content and I always have it within 30 feet or so (bluetooth range) when wearing the Watch.


Edited by joemikeb (08/26/15 12:55 PM)
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#36128 - 09/24/15 06:08 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
iPhones have only been around for eight years. I find that fact stunning. They seem so ubiquitous.

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#36136 - 09/25/15 12:36 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: slolerner]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
"only" 8 years? Seems like a long time to me?
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#36138 - 09/25/15 12:49 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: Virtual1]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
"only" 8 years? Seems like a long time to me?

Not if you're over 50 or 60. tongue smirk

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#36156 - 09/28/15 07:12 AM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: grelber]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: grelber
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
"only" 8 years? Seems like a long time to me?

Not if you're over 50 or 60. tongue smirk

44 as of TODAY, actually
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#36160 - 09/28/15 07:35 AM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: Virtual1]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
44 as of TODAY, actually

Have a happy! smile

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#36162 - 09/28/15 11:53 AM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: Virtual1]
slolerner Offline


Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
1971 – The year Steve Jobs met Steve Wozniak.
Happy Birthday to you.

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#36164 - 09/28/15 12:03 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: slolerner]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: slolerner
1971 – The year Steve Jobs met Steve Wozniak.

what were the circumstances? (I didn't read the book / see the movie)

Considering the year, I could imagine it being a seedy basement of a hippie bar with a wide selection of substances being consumed in various ways...
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#36165 - 09/28/15 12:22 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: Virtual1]
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Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
I believe they were neighborhood teenagers who were introduced by a mutual friend. Seedy hippie bars were the 60's. Lava lamps and such, no chipsets.

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#36166 - 09/28/15 02:29 PM Re: Wanna iPhone? Don't think so. [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: joemikeb
Grelber we are getting old and it all too easy to forget that kids entering college today…
have never licked a postage stamp...

Have never 'dialed' a phone...

Speaking of which, I think the two Steves were big fans of phone-phreaking. it was a big thing with weird publications like '2600' and secret meeting spots.

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