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I talked to AppleCare about this and was told not to ever get rid of a plist without calling them or looking on Apple Discussions because some plists don't come back. I thought they all came back.

AppleCare is correct not all plists will come back if they are deleted. I can't find it at the moment but there was a discussion about this on FTM maybe a year or so back. As I recall these were in /LIbrary/Preferences and not ~/Library/Preferences and/or were related to system functions.

And although this does not pertain to you — yet, deleting plists has changed pretty radically in Yosemite. In fact deleting plists manually really does not work any more.

In Yosemite, Safari does not display scroll bars if there's no scrollable content (i.e. if the entire page is viewable in the Safari window), even with Always checked in System Preferences -> General -> Show scroll bars:. I suspect that's how it is in Mountain Lion as well, though I don't recall for sure.

That wouldn't explain why you can sometimes produce them by hovering, though. In cases like this—when a behavior seems to reflect a different preference choice than the one you've made—the first thing to try is toggling the choice off and on again. In other words, click the When scrolling button, then click the Always button again.

AppleCare is correct not all plists will come back if they are deleted. I can't find it at the moment but there was a discussion about this on FTM maybe a year or so back.

/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/ is a famous/infamous example.

I'm having a problem with the network, lets just delete that. ok good it made a new one. Is it smaller?

Oh I have no network adapters! OK lets just re-add them. why is the list blank when I click [+] ?

Even if the advice was given to delete a preference file, it should always have been to remove it from its current location, put it on the Desktop or in a folder on the Desktop, and not to Trash it. This way it could be returned intact, if needed.

Even if the advice was given to delete a preference file, it should always have been to remove it from its current location, put it on the Desktop or in a folder on the Desktop, and not to Trash it. This way it could be returned intact, if needed.

In Yosemite (and maybe Mavericks and I just didn't notice) the normal behavior of the scroll bar is to fade out and only appear when on a page that does not fit in the window and a gesture is made with the mouse or trackpad that could be interpreted as intending to scroll the window and then fades away after a few second delay. This behavior is normal in Finder and most other Apple apps. (Calendar does not use scroll bars at all.) It is a tossup whether third party apps use the revised Apple style or have persistent school bars.

I just looked in MacPilot to see if I could find a hidden preference "switch" to turn this behavior on or off and came up empty handed.

Thanks for checking that for me. Oh well. I've had Mavericks almost since it came out and I've never had a problem with my scroll bar showing. Now it's a different story. It comes and goes at will. Hovering does not bring it to the fore nor does scrolling. I guess I will just have to live without it, which is a pain on a long page. I like to know where I am on it.

Rita

Try going to your Apple menu, choosing System Preferences, and clicking the General icon. In the middle fo the General pane, you should see

Show scroll bars:

with choices for Automatically, When Scrolling, and Always. Make sure Always is selected.

Try going to your Apple menu, choosing System Preferences, and clicking the General icon. In the middle fo the General pane, you should see

Show scroll bars:

with choices for Automatically, When Scrolling, and Always. Make sure Always is selected.

And if you haven't done so already, toggle the preference off and then back on.

In the absence of any better ideas, I'll suggest that you d/l and re-run the OS X Mavericks 10.9.4 Update (Combo).