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#30505 - 07/08/14 02:53 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
> ...OS X 10.10's share of OS X users....

I think you meant 10.9.

You're right... I shouldn't have singled out Mavericks, because OS X took a major hit across the board. (Hmmm... I wonder if the entire 10.10 percentage is at the expense of 10.9 or if the beta testers are in the stats twice?)

You say that "this kind of retrograde motion hasn't been uncommon", but can you think of any reason for a 9% across-the-board swing in one month? That's a pretty big hit! I can see statistical anomalies, but this one seems unreasonably big.
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#30672 - 07/25/14 07:31 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: artie505]
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What is the latest year (version) of Macbook Pro 15" (non-retina) that will run Snow Leopard?
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#30677 - 07/25/14 09:02 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: slolerner]
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According to MacTracker that would be the early 2011 model, introduced February 2011 and discontinued October 2011.
- Model identifier MacBookPro8,2
- Model number A1286
- Order numbers MC721LL/A (2.0 GHz) and MC723LL/A (2.2 GHz)
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#30695 - 08/01/14 06:20 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: alternaut]
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MC322LL/A?

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#30699 - 08/01/14 10:01 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: slolerner]
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MC322LL/A is the order number for the 2,4 GHz late 2011 15" MBP. Original Mac OS X version is 10.7.2 (11C74). Usually, Macs cannot run older OS version than the one they shipped with (due to the drivers required), but there are some exceptions. I don't know if one applies here, but I doubt it given the CPU difference. Perhaps someone else can chime in.
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#30706 - 08/01/14 12:23 PM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: alternaut]
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tacit mentioned a while back that his new MBP shipped with a newer OS than 10.6 but was backwards compatible; I wonder which one it is?
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#30708 - 08/01/14 12:40 PM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: artie505]
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So, Tacit, a MC322LL/A, will it Snow, will it Snow, will it Snow?
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#30710 - 08/01/14 12:54 PM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: slolerner]
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smile laugh
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#30712 - 08/01/14 03:08 PM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: artie505]
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Loc: New York City
I'm looking at this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151369113793?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l4455&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI151369113793.N7.S2.M397.R2.TR2

It says it's a
MacBookPro8,2
Model Number A1286

It just has a different order number than what Alternaut said was the latest non-retina MBP that would work with SL:

Quote:
According to MacTracker that would be the early 2011 model, introduced February 2011 and discontinued October 2011.
- Model identifier MacBookPro8,2
- Model number A1286
- Order numbers MC721LL/A (2.0 GHz) and MC723LL/A (2.2 GHz)
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#30713 - 08/01/14 03:25 PM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: slolerner]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
That listing includes contradictory info, saying "Early Mid 2011" in one place and "Late 2011" in another, but judging from the AppleCare expiration date, I'll guess that it's a Late 2011 model that does not support Snowy (unless tacit says otherwise Edit: and I wouldn't blame him for not going out on a limb).

Edit: It's definitely the later model; the earlier one did not come with a 2.4GHz processor.

Edit 2: As a sidenote, I'll mention that I recently got a pop-up from the LA Times advising me to upgrade (from Snowy's Safari 5.1.10) to a "modern" browser...only time that's ever happened.


Edited by artie505 (08/01/14 05:34 PM)
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#30721 - 08/02/14 03:57 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: artie505]
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NetMarketShare's latest figures show Mavericks comprising 62.05% of Mac operating system use, while Snow Leopard has declined to 12.65%.
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#30726 - 08/02/14 11:51 AM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: dkmarsh]
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Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

NetMarketShare's latest figures show Mavericks comprising 62.05% of Mac operating system use, while Snow Leopard has declined to 12.65%.

And Mavericks is unlikely to get much higher than that because of the impending release of Yosemite will pretty much bring an end to the sale of Mavericks.
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#30728 - 08/02/14 11:23 PM Re: Apple ending Snow Leopard support? [Re: dkmarsh]
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Registered: 08/04/09
They'll soon be finding saber-tooth snow leopards in the La Brea Tar Pits. tongue frown

(Yosemite has already picked up a fair share, and I wonder whether there's a doubling-up effect going on, with the beta testers running it as well as [presumably] Mavericks?)
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