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#26770 - 09/18/13 06:28 PM Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater?
slolerner Offline


Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
The Mini can't be updated any more and is being used as a hard drive. If I put it where the wireless signal falls off, the rear of a clothing store with tons of metal racks where the last 10 feet of the showroom can't pick up the network, will that help?

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#26771 - 09/18/13 09:05 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: slolerner]
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Registered: 08/03/09
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Quite likely, yes. Better yet, run an Ethernet cable to it, and then set it up to do sharing of the Internet connection from the Ethernet cable.
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#26777 - 09/19/13 12:51 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: slolerner]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Tacit's right: sharing the Internet connection via ethernet from the Mini is what will work here, whether the Mini itself gets its connection via WiFi or ethernet. Unfortunately, you cannot use the Mini to extend your WiFi network and make it a wireless repeater as you say in the thread title, because Airport Utility won't see the Mini as an option. If you need WiFi throughout the entire store, use an Airport Express to extend your existing WiFi network, and place it in range of the existing network towards the rear of the store.
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#26778 - 09/19/13 01:04 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: alternaut]
slolerner Offline


Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
We have a repeater. There is still a dead zone.

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#26781 - 09/19/13 02:03 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: slolerner]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: slolerner
We have a repeater. There is still a dead zone.


I have two repeaters, Airport Express, because of dead zones and I still find places where I have to switch between the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands to get optimum signal strength.
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#26787 - 09/19/13 05:01 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: joemikeb]
slolerner Offline


Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
Please explain. They are using an Apple repeater, not the Airport Express, tho. I thought the wireless router (a Cisco)automatically switches from 2.4 to 5 as needed?

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#26788 - 09/19/13 05:52 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: slolerner]
alternaut Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: slolerner
They are using an Apple repeater, not the Airport Express, tho. [...] the wireless router (a Cisco) ...

Your repeater options from Apple are limited to the Airport Express or the Airport Extreme. With few exceptions, neither can extend a non-Apple WiFi network.
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#26890 - 09/27/13 06:57 AM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: alternaut]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: alternaut
Originally Posted By: slolerner
They are using an Apple repeater, not the Airport Express, tho. [...] the wireless router (a Cisco) ...

Your repeater options from Apple are limited to the Airport Express or the Airport Extreme. With few exceptions, neither can extend a non-Apple WiFi network.


I've been able to get WDS working with non apple wifi? You just can't use the setup wizard?
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#26901 - 09/27/13 09:09 AM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: Virtual1]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
Originally Posted By: alternaut
With few exceptions, neither can extend a non-Apple WiFi network.
I've been able to get WDS working with non apple wifi? You just can't use the setup wizard?

WDS based equipment is indeed the exception I was referring to, but I chose not to use it myself nor expand upon it here mainly because of your own comments about it elsewhere in these forums:

Originally Posted By: Virtual1
WDS is a cranky little beaste. I've dealt with more setups that HAD problems than that did NOT. Some would work for days to months and then unpair for no obvious reason. Some took many attempts to pair. Some NEVER would pair. I hate working on WDS because of how fickle it can be.

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#26902 - 09/27/13 09:18 AM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: alternaut]
slolerner Offline


Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
Is WDS the same as Access Point wall socket plug-ins?

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#26903 - 09/27/13 09:48 AM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: slolerner]
alternaut Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09
No. WDS is the WiFi repeater protocol used by Apple and a few other manufacturers. Unfortunately, however, there are few non-Apple WDS-compatible routers or repeaters, and the level of compatibility is debatable, which may cause problems.

In contrast, Access Point is essentially ethernet over power lines, although the AP adapter itself can provide either WiFi or (wired) ethernet network access.


Edited by alternaut (09/27/13 10:24 AM)
Edit Reason: fixed typo
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#26905 - 09/27/13 10:07 AM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: alternaut]
slolerner Offline


Registered: 08/25/09
Loc: New York City
So the Access Points have to be on the same electrical circuit, not just the same location?

I have a similar question: I just bought these RCA plug in devices that I can connect to the phone jack and outlet, and then continue to put ones in power plugs and attach phones to them. Are they wireless transmitters or does the phone run over the power line?

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#26909 - 09/27/13 01:08 PM Re: Using an old Mac Mini as an Airport Repeater? [Re: slolerner]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: slolerner
So the Access Points have to be on the same electrical circuit, not just the same location?

[...] RCA plug in devices that I can connect to the phone jack and outlet [...]. Are they wireless transmitters or does the phone run over the power line?

- No, the APs can be on any circuit within the same service unit (home/business).

- In contrast to power line networking hardware, I believe that the RCA phone jack extension devices you're referring to use a high frequency radio band to communicate between units. That's wireless (like indoor wireless phones), but not WiFi.
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