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#26549 - 08/28/13 07:52 AM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: jaybass]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
It will suffice for music probably, but not Talk Radio. I found a talk radio stream that I can use yesterday that had what I wanted. Thanks.

Originally Posted By: jaybass
OS 10.6.8 Will the radio stations on itunes suffice? jaybass
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#26554 - 08/28/13 01:17 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
You can never find the actual Flash player, because it isn't a program. It's a plugin that lives in your Web browser.
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#26558 - 08/28/13 02:09 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Oh, I learned something else. Thanks.

Originally Posted By: tacit
You can never find the actual Flash player, because it isn't a program. It's a plugin that lives in your Web browser.
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#26560 - 08/28/13 02:47 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 08/04/09
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The plug-in is found in the /Library/Internet Plug-Ins folder. They are named FlashPlayer.plugin and flashplayer.xpt.

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#26562 - 08/28/13 03:16 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: joemikeb]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Thank you!!

Originally Posted By: joemikeb
The plug-in is found in the /Library/Internet Plug-Ins folder. They are named FlashPlayer.plugin and flashplayer.xpt.

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#26563 - 08/28/13 04:21 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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In addition to looking under the hood for your plugin files, you can check Safari's 'Installed Plug-ins' menu (found under the Help menu) to see if it includes a 'Shockwave Flash' item for proof that you've got the plugin installed. In addition to the current version available, this Adobe Flash Player web page will also show the version you've got installed in a small Flash window labeled Version Information. The advantage of doing this in a Flash window is that seeing it provides implicit proof that the plugin works as intended, a handy troubleshooting aid. As a Flash user, you might want to bookmark this page, plus its link to the Flash update page you might also need.
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#26564 - 08/28/13 07:56 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: alternaut]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Good to know. Thank you!


Originally Posted By: alternaut
In addition to looking under the hood for your plugin files, you can check Safari's 'Installed Plug-ins' menu (found under the Help menu) to see if it includes a 'Shockwave Flash' item for proof that you've got the plugin installed. In addition to the current version available, this Adobe Flash Player web page will also show the version you've got installed in a small Flash window labeled Version Information. The advantage of doing this in a Flash window is that seeing it provides implicit proof that the plugin works as intended, a handy troubleshooting aid. As a Flash user, you might want to bookmark this page, plus its link to the Flash update page you might also need.
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#26693 - 09/10/13 06:50 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Ok, so I've been messing with my Java settings because I got scared because of what I read about the security issue. I wish I hadn't messed with them because now I can't listen to Grooveshark anymore.

I went into applications - Utilities - Java prefs and unclicked two boxes to completely disable Java. I decided I wanted to enable them again so I can have a better experience. Now when I got to Apps, utilities, etc., there is no Java prefs.

Any ideas? I really need to leave well enough alone. I'm always messing under the hood. I need to stop that.
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#26694 - 09/10/13 07:07 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Hi, Rita,

First thing to do is search your HD with Spotlight or whichever other app you use for "Java Preferences" to see if it maybe got moved somewhere by accident.

I think you can d/l it if you can't find it on your HD, but I'm not certain about what and from where.

Edit: Time Machine or clone?


Edited by artie505 (09/10/13 07:09 PM)
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#26695 - 09/10/13 07:56 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Time Machine which I never could figure out how to use.

I checked Spotlight and search via Finder. Nothing. I also searched my Trash which I haven't emptied in a long while. Nothing. frown

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#26696 - 09/10/13 08:12 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
I went back a few days just now and restored stuff from Time Machine. Still no Java Pres. confused
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#26697 - 09/10/13 08:31 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Wow. Okay, after I restored stuff from Time Machine, I used Spotlight again and found my Java Prefs!!! Thanks for the idea, Artie. I still can't find it via Apps, utilities, etc. Not sure why. But there it was and now my Grooveshark music works!

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#26698 - 09/10/13 10:29 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Good news! I'm happy I had the afterthought; I don't run TM, and it's generally pretty far from my mind.

> But there it was....

Where?
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#26703 - 09/11/13 08:20 AM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
In Spotlight! I couldn't find it in the Finder or anywhere else. But it popped up in spotlight. I was able to check and uncheck the boxes. Where it's hiding other than that I don't know. I couldn't see a status bar to let me know where it's hiding. Just glad I found it. Made a world of difference. If I decide I want to uncheck the boxes, I will use Spotlight again. If it's missing again, I will go to Timeline and get it!! I didn't see it in Timeline, I just picked a day that was before I started messing with it and hit "Restore." That brought it back.

Thanks again, Artie!

Originally Posted By: artie505
Good news! I'm happy I had the afterthought; I don't run TM, and it's generally pretty far from my mind.

> But there it was....

Where?
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#26705 - 09/11/13 10:28 AM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Originally Posted By: plantsower
[...] it popped up in spotlight. Where it's hiding other than that I don't know. I couldn't see a status bar to let me know where it's hiding.

If you select 'Java Prefs' directly from Spotlight's results pulldown menu, you won't see location information. If you select Show All, the top item in the Spotlight pulldown menu after you enter a search term, you'll get a regular window with search results showing file/folder paths in the bottom margin when you select an actual file or folder in the list (not all search results qualify, like Safari history items etc.).
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#26706 - 09/11/13 10:40 AM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: alternaut]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Wished I known that yesterday!! It's not showing up again. Maybe I will have to go back into Time Machine and try to retrieve once more. Thanks for that valuable info.

Rita


Originally Posted By: alternaut
Originally Posted By: plantsower
[...] it popped up in spotlight. Where it's hiding other than that I don't know. I couldn't see a status bar to let me know where it's hiding.

If you select 'Java Prefs' directly from Spotlight's results pulldown menu, you won't see location information. If you select Show All, the top item in the Spotlight pulldown menu after you enter a search term, you'll get a regular window with search results showing file/folder paths in the bottom margin when you select an actual file or folder in the list (not all search results qualify, like Safari history items etc.).
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#26709 - 09/11/13 04:51 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
> It's not showing up again.

Grooveshark?

If it's really gone, you may have some other problem - don't ask me to even guess - that needs to be addressed.
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#26710 - 09/11/13 05:50 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: artie505]
plantsower Offline


Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
I can now find the prefs if I have my external drive plugged in. Otherwise I can't. Even though I restored it. So not sure how that all works. Grooveshark is an online music site like Pandora.

Rita

Originally Posted By: artie505
> It's not showing up again.

Grooveshark?

If it's really gone, you may have some other problem - don't ask me to even guess - that needs to be addressed.
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#26711 - 09/11/13 06:15 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
You misunderstood me, Rita; I meant did Grooveshark work when you couldn't find your Java prefs?

What's on your external drive, and can you listen to Grooveshark without it being plugged in?
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#26712 - 09/11/13 07:52 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
Oh, okay. Grooveshark did work after I found the java prefs via Spotlight even though I couldn't find them again on my computer. Yes, I can listen to Grooveshark without my external drive. You would think I wouldn't be able to since I can only find the prefs with my external drive plugged in, but it works anyway. Not sure what you mean by what's on my external drive. I mean, I got my prefs back via Time Machine on my external drive. Sorry, hope all that makes sense.

Rita

Originally Posted By: artie505
You misunderstood me, Rita; I meant did Grooveshark work when you couldn't find your Java prefs?

What's on your external drive, and can you listen to Grooveshark without it being plugged in?
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#26713 - 09/11/13 10:38 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
OK, so your external drive is your Time Machine drive and that's all that's on it?

Maybe all the pieces are now in place for somebody other than me to make some sense out of what's going on.
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#26715 - 09/12/13 09:35 AM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
It's okay, Artie. I will just use the Time Machine if I need to. At this point, I don't. I restored the Java stuff but I can't find it. But, it's working. Go figure!

My time Machine backs up everything on my computer every few minutes.I need to take the time to do a time machine tutorial as it confuses the heck out of me. But, I'm lazy. smile

Rita

Originally Posted By: artie505
OK, so your external drive is your Time Machine drive and that's all that's on it?

Maybe all the pieces are now in place for somebody other than me to make some sense out of what's going on.
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#26717 - 09/12/13 02:42 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: plantsowner
My time Machine backs up everything on my computer every few minutes.

As designed, Time Machine does its backups every 60 minutes or 3600 seconds. Unless you have been fiddling with the settings with a third party utility or from the command line.
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#26718 - 09/12/13 05:06 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: plantsower]
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Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Starting with Java 1.6.0_37, there is no Java Preferences app any more. It's in the release notes for the OS X Java update:

"This update also removes the Java Preferences application, which is no longer required to configure applet settings."

So if you have a version of the Java Preferences app on your computer, it's an older version, intended for an older version of Java. I have seen scattered reports that you can run it on modern OS X systems and change the settings, but it doesn't actually do anything.
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#26720 - 09/12/13 06:35 PM Re: Listening to Internet Radio [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 09/13/09
Loc: Burson, CA
All I know is that some radio websites won't run unless I use Java. Click-to-Flash doesn't do it. I can't remember where I got the Java, if I downloaded it or it came with Adobe Flash when I downloaded that. But I needed Java to play the music.

Originally Posted By: tacit
Starting with Java 1.6.0_37, there is no Java Preferences app any more. It's in the release notes for the OS X Java update:

"This update also removes the Java Preferences application, which is no longer required to configure applet settings."

So if you have a version of the Java Preferences app on your computer, it's an older version, intended for an older version of Java. I have seen scattered reports that you can run it on modern OS X systems and change the settings, but it doesn't actually do anything.
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