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#20451 - 02/01/12 05:32 PM Security Update MailWatch
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
MailWatch, a PPC app which I really love, was working just fine until I installed the Security Update today. It seems that the Security Update somehow broke MailWatch. Below is the CrashLog. Am hoping someone can decipher this and let me know if there is something I can do to fix it. MailWatch was literally working fine just minutes before I installed the Security Update.

In the alternative if someone knows of a similar application I'd love to know about it. MailWatch resides in the menu bar and notifies me when there is new mail on my mail server.

Process: Mail Watch [207]
Path: /Applications/Utilities/Mail Watch.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail Watch
Identifier: com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail
Version: Mail Watch version 3.3 (3.3)
Code Type: PPC (Translated)
Parent Process: launchd [92]

Date/Time: 2012-02-01 14:32:35.569 -0800
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x80239236 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x80238ad7 pthread_kill + 95
2 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80bfb30 0xb8000000 + 785200
3 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
4 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
5 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
6 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x80142afa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x80143267 mach_msg + 68
2 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb819440f CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 206231
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x80170259 _pthread_start + 345
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x801700de thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb815acc0 spin_lock_wrapper + 90152
1 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8179c5b CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 97763
2 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
3 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
4 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
5 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
6 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455

Thread 3:
0 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb815a8ff spin_lock_wrapper + 89191
1 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8176e5d CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 85989
2 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
3 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
4 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
5 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
6 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455

Thread 4:
0 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb815a8ff spin_lock_wrapper + 89191
1 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8176e5d CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 85989
2 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
3 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
4 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
5 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
6 com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail 0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x802fc540 ecx: 0xb7fff9ac edx: 0x80239236
edi: 0xb8211640 esi: 0x00000005 ebp: 0xb7fff9d8 esp: 0xb7fff9ac
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000286 eip: 0x80239236 cs: 0x00000007
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x8023922c

Binary Images:
0x80000000 - 0x8005dff7 com.apple.framework.IOKit 2.0 (???) <3DABAB9C-4949-F441-B077-0498F8E47A35> /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
0x8007d000 - 0x800e7fe7 libstdc++.6.dylib 7.9.0 (compatibility 7.0.0) <411D87F4-B7E1-44EB-F201-F8B4F9227213> /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
0x80142000 - 0x802e9ff7 libSystem.B.dylib 125.2.11 (compatibility 1.0.0) <2DCD13E3-1BD1-6F25-119A-3863A3848B90> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x8036b000 - 0x804e6fe7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.6.6 (550.44) <F88C95CD-1264-782D-A1F5-204739847E93> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x805de000 - 0x805ecfe7 libz.1.dylib 1.2.3 (compatibility 1.0.0) <33C1B260-ED05-945D-FC33-EF56EC791E2E> /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
0x805f1000 - 0x805fdff7 libkxld.dylib ??? (???) <9A441C48-2D18-E716-5F38-CBEAE6A0BB3E> /usr/lib/system/libkxld.dylib
0x80601000 - 0x80647ff7 libauto.dylib ??? (???) <29422A70-87CF-10E2-CE59-FEE1234CFAAE> /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
0x80654000 - 0x807d6fe7 libicucore.A.dylib 40.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <D5980817-6D19-9636-51C3-E82BAE26776B> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
0x80838000 - 0x808e5fe7 libobjc.A.dylib 227.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <9F8413A6-736D-37D9-8EB3-7986D4699957> /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0x808f9000 - 0x808fcfe7 libmathCommon.A.dylib 315.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <1622A54F-1A98-2CBE-B6A4-2122981A500E> /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4163b dyld 132.1 (???) <4CDE4F04-0DD6-224E-ACE5-3C06E169A801> /usr/lib/dyld
0xb8000000 - 0xb81defff +com.AstroK-Software.Watch.Mail Mail Watch version 3.3 (3.3) <F24FBFDD-E694-6F38-BFFB-293613CEF2DE> /Applications/Utilities/Mail Watch.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail Watch
0xffff0000 - 0xffff1fff libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) <2DCD13E3-1BD1-6F25-119A-3863A3848B90> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib

Translated Code Information:
objc[207]: garbage collection is ON
NO CRASH REPORT


Edited by dianne (02/01/12 05:53 PM)
Edit Reason: Moved from Mac OS X Applications to the Networking forum.

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#20453 - 02/01/12 05:54 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Which Security Update did you install?

Have you looked at /Apps/Utils/Console > Console Messages to see if there's anything useful in there?

Have you tried trashing Mail Watch and/or its plist, app support...whatever, and reinstalling?
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#20454 - 02/01/12 09:13 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Sorry, I did try reinstalling and also deleted the plist to no avail. What I posted is what I got from console, but I cannot determine anything from that which is why I posted.

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#20455 - 02/01/12 11:38 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
I just tried to d/l Mail Watch 3.3 for a look-see, but MacUpdates "Download Now" and "Visit Developer's Site" links both come up with

Quote:
Not Found

The requested URL /en/mailwatch.html was not found on this server.

(dodownload.com, cnet.com, and mac.softpedia.com links return the same error.)

I dunno... confused

Edit: If you're running Time Machine, you can always revert to a pre-update backup (but at the cost of losing your newly gained security, of course).


Edited by artie505 (02/01/12 11:57 PM)
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#20456 - 02/02/12 07:23 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Don't want to lose the Security and I knew this day was coming as MailWatch was one of 2 PPC apps that I still run on 10.6.8. The other being Quicken 2007. As soon as Quicken 2007 comes out with the Intel version I'm probably going to Lion but I'll definitely miss MailWatch.

Hard to believe that a similar app never made it to an Intel version. Oh Well.

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#20459 - 02/02/12 09:18 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: artie505
Which Security Update did you install?

This question seems to have fallen by the wayside, but FWIW I suspect that this must have been Security Update 2011-006 (Snow Leopard).
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#20460 - 02/02/12 09:44 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: alternaut]
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#20461 - 02/02/12 10:17 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

I dropped that issue because I found the Security Update after having been away from my deuced Mac(hina) for a day.

(Interestingly, though, MacUpdate's page incorrectly linked to the update alternaut posted.)
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#20462 - 02/02/12 10:19 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
> Hard to believe that a similar app never made it to an Intel version. Oh Well.

It seems to me that I've seen similar apps on MacUpdate; have you searched?
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#20466 - 02/02/12 10:58 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
It was the Security Update from yesterday that I installed.

I've searched high and low and cannot find any app, for POP accounts, that shows emails on the server from the menu bar. It's so convenient to know at a glance if there are any emails waiting. I hate to drop what I'm doing and open another application to see if there are any emails waiting on the server. I know I can do this from Apple Mail with Get Account Info but that is cumbersome to say the least.

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#20467 - 02/02/12 10:58 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: dkmarsh]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

You're quite right, of course, and thanks for fixing that. In my search of that url I got misdirected and didn't even notice the incorrect date staring me in the face. blush

That said, the issue Douglas is struggling with seems to be associated with the workings (or non-workings, as the case may be) of Rosetta-dependent apps following that security update, according to many user reports. Perhaps there will be another security update to fix this issue, but even so, Mail Watch's days are likely numbered.
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#20468 - 02/02/12 11:34 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: alternaut]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
I'm sorry to say the MailWatch day's were numbered long ago. It seems that only MailWatch was broken.

I'm still using Quicken 2007, PPC, and it's operating normally - thank god as I have financial records going back to 1995 on Quicken.

After an extensive search I've decide to use TopPop as a replacement. It's not free and I cannot delete emails off the server from TopPop but it's the closest I could find and I do like the Growl notification.

Thanks for the help everyone !


Edited by Douglas (02/02/12 01:05 PM)

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#20475 - 02/02/12 04:38 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Was just in the Apple Forums and there are tons of reports that the Security Update, Snow Leopard, broke almost all PPC applications in one way or another. Just checked my Quicken 2006 and while I can work in the Register I am unable to print or export without crashing.

Thank god I've got a clone but I hope Apple can fix this ASAP. The reason I did not update to Lion is because I need Quicken.

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#20479 - 02/02/12 11:08 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Running or rerunning, as the case may be, the OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v 1.1 has been presented as an option, as has reinstalling Rosetta (with Pacifist) from your install disc, although with no accompanying success/failure reports, here.

I don't know that I'd hold out much hope for the Combo; reinstalling Rosetta sounds like a more realistic approach.


Edited by artie505 (02/02/12 11:14 PM)
Edit Reason: Cleanup and expand
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#20480 - 02/03/12 07:32 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: artie505
I don't know that I'd hold out much hope for the Combo; reinstalling Rosetta sounds like a more realistic approach.

I wonder if the following sheds any light. I only saw the update bulletin yesterday so, given this thread, I clicked on:

For information on the security content of this update, please visit this website:

I went to the link . Yesterday evening the page was not available but this morning it is and this information is provided.

Name and Information

OSX Lion v10.7.3 and Security Update 2012-001

Released for

Mac OS X v10.6.8, OS X Lion v10.7 to v10.7.2

Perhaps Apple didn't write code that broke Rosetta. Maybe, in their haste to get a Lion update out and combine it with Snow Leopard, Apple has completely missed the fact that SL has the Rosetta component and left it out.


Edited by ryck (02/03/12 07:38 AM)
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#20482 - 02/03/12 09:24 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
I just copied the ImageIO.framework from my clone over to my regular HD and all is back to normal and working correctly. Both Quicken, can print and export now, and MailWatch is working too.

Pretty easy fix but you need to boot with the clone and then copy the file to the regular HD and reboot into the regular HD.

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#20483 - 02/03/12 10:07 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: ryck]
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Quote:
Perhaps Apple didn't write code that broke Rosetta. Maybe, in their haste to get a Lion update out and combine it with Snow Leopard, Apple has completely missed the fact that SL has the Rosetta component and left it out.

ryck, I don't follow you. Are you suggesting that the OS X team at Apple forgot that under Snow Leopard, many people use Rosetta to run PPC-only apps?
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#20484 - 02/03/12 10:11 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
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Can you provide a link to the source of this fix suggestion? The Security Update lists three ImageIO fixes patches for Snow Leopard; this fix (presumably) reintroduces some vulnerabilities by overwriting them.


Edited by dkmarsh (02/03/12 10:12 AM)
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#20485 - 02/03/12 11:08 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: dkmarsh]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh
ryck, I don't follow you. Are you suggesting that the OS X team at Apple forgot that under Snow Leopard, many people use Rosetta to run PPC-only apps?

Why wouldn't it be possible? Rosetta isn't installed automatically, but has to be chosen when Slow Leopard is installed. And Lion does not come with Rosetta.

I'm not a person who has ever written code, so I am at a bit of a disadvantage, but it doesn't make my query unreasonable. It seems to me that a team focussed on Lion, incorporating the unsupported Snow Leopard that has Rosetta as an add-on, could drop the Rosetta ball. I'm sure that stranger things have happened.
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#20486 - 02/03/12 11:47 AM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: dkmarsh]
Douglas Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
You can do it manually but this link from a very kind mac owner makes it easier.

http://www.educate-it.org/content.php?130-Rosetta-Issue-after-Security-Update-2012-001


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#20487 - 02/03/12 01:23 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Originally Posted By: artie505
Running or rerunning, as the case may be, the OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v 1.1 has been presented as an option, as has reinstalling Rosetta (with Pacifist) from your install disc, although with no accompanying success/failure reports, here.

I don't know that I'd hold out much hope for the Combo; reinstalling Rosetta sounds like a more realistic approach.
I haven't used the Combo, but reinstalling Rosetta didn't work. Fortunately for me, the only PPC app that I rely upon is Eye-One Match 3.6.3 for monitor calibration, and it works. Word X crashes when I try to open a document but I use Word 2008 and haven't used any of the Office X apps for awhile. My other PPC apps are things that I don't need anymore. Still, I hope that Apple issues a fix soon. I can always clone back from my SD backup (after manually copying some new files). Running Archive & Install is also an option.
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#20488 - 02/03/12 01:35 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: jchuzi]
artie505 Online


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The only MS app I run is Office Excel X, which has had no trouble opening the two files for which I use it (although I haven't tried changing and saving yet).

Have you tried Douglas's linked solution?


Edited by artie505 (02/03/12 02:13 PM)
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#20489 - 02/03/12 02:25 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh
Quote:
Perhaps Apple didn't write code that broke Rosetta. Maybe, in their haste to get a Lion update out and combine it with Snow Leopard, Apple has completely missed the fact that SL has the Rosetta component and left it out.

ryck, I don't follow you. Are you suggesting that the OS X team at Apple forgot that under Snow Leopard, many people use Rosetta to run PPC-only apps?

ryck's suggestion is not at all off-the-wall; it's given context by Apple's having overlooked the Safari regression caused by the OS X 10.6.8 v1.1 Combo Updater.
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#20490 - 02/03/12 02:32 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: Douglas]
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I can open Quicken 2007 and enter Data, but I can't print anything from it.

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#20491 - 02/03/12 02:51 PM Re: Security Update MailWatch [Re: ryck]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: ryck
Why wouldn't it be possible? Rosetta isn't installed automatically, but has to be chosen when Slow Leopard is installed. And Lion does not come with Rosetta.

I'm not a person who has ever written code, so I am at a bit of a disadvantage, but it doesn't make my query unreasonable. It seems to me that a team focussed on Lion, incorporating the unsupported Snow Leopard that has Rosetta as an add-on, could drop the Rosetta ball. I'm sure that stranger things have happened.

I am a person who has designed, coded, and tested hundreds of thousands of lines of code and from what I have seen of Apple's software development process over the years I can safely say, the omission of Rosetta was clearly not an oversight. Apple broadcast their intentions to drop Rosetta when it became an optional install in Snow Leopard. At that point if developers did not migrate their code to the Intel platform they were signaling their loss of interest in the product and users who were listening should have begun seeking alternatives.

It has been Apple's practice, from their very beginnings to drop support for obsolete hardware and software technologies as they add support for newer hardware and software technologies. Apple has always broadcast their intentions for dropping a technology well in advance and when necessary providing a bridging technology such as the Classic Environment in earlier releases of OS X and more recently Rosetta. But those bridging technologies are never intended to be permanent and will be dropped usually after a couple of OS X upgrades. These bridging technologies are intended to allow time for developers to adapt to the new platform or users to find alternative applications.

If you are looking for a platform that provides support for code going all the way back to the dark ages of personal computing, Dell will be more than happy to accommodate you.
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