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#19527 - 12/07/11 10:15 PM Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins???
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
The other night, after visiting Many Tricks, I found a manytricks.com (Plug-ins) item in the above captioned location.

My first reaction was to look in /Library/Internet Plug-ins and ~/Library/Internet Plug-ins to see what was up, but both locations were empty, and neither I nor Peter and Rob of Many Tricks, who are as mystified as I am, have been able to reproduce the item.

Prior to this incident and since I've seen only Cache, Cookies, and Cache, Cookies items in "Privacy," and I'm wondering whether the Plug-ins item was a hiccup or some as yet unexplained reality?

Anybody?
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#20008 - 01/07/12 02:31 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: artie505
The other night, after visiting Many Tricks, I found a manytricks.com (Plug-ins) item in the above captioned location.

My first reaction was to look in /Library/Internet Plug-ins and ~/Library/Internet Plug-ins to see what was up, but both locations were empty, and neither I nor Peter and Rob of Many Tricks, who are as mystified as I am, have been able to reproduce the item.

Prior to this incident and since I've seen only Cache, Cookies, and Cache, Cookies items in "Privacy," and I'm wondering whether the Plug-ins item was a hiccup or some as yet unexplained reality?

Anybody?

I can't provide any rigorous explanation or anything, but now i think i know from where Safari is deriving that particular "Plug-in" info. Have a look in the ~/Library/Caches/QuickTime/downloads/ folder for a TOC.plist file.

And/or just run this terminal command:

defaults read ~/Library/Caches/QuickTime/downloads/TOC

It seems to be storing URLs pointing to online movie (.mov) or sound (.wav) files. The items labeled "Plug-in" displayed in the 'Cookies and other website data' list correspond to domains of those URLs. Just delete (or clear) the TOC.plist and voila... no more plugins showing.

[may as well dump all the .qtch files in that downloads hierarchy too... unless any correspond to some video you view frequently.]


Edited by Hal Itosis (01/07/12 02:36 PM)

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#20009 - 01/07/12 10:58 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Thanks for the insight.

Code:
Artie-s-Computer-4:~ artie$ defaults read ~/Library/Caches/QuickTime/downloads/TOC
2012-01-08 02:51:46.323 defaults[1553:903] 
Domain /Users/artie/Library/Caches/QuickTime/downloads/TOC does not exist
Artie-s-Computer-4:~ artie$ 

On the other hand, though, that file does exist...contents or no contents, as the case may be:

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict/>
</plist>

Does that mean anything to you?

(Edit: I'll keep an eye peeled to see what, if anything, turns up in that file.)


Edited by artie505 (01/07/12 11:04 PM)
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#20012 - 01/08/12 08:36 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Oops! I don't know where my head was at last night, but I just remembered that I've never, ever used QuickTime, and, as a matter of fact, it hasn't even existed on my deuced Mac(hina) in at least a coupl'a years.
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#20013 - 01/08/12 09:07 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
grelber Offline


Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
What application do you use to view MPEGs (as opposed to WMV files)?

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#20014 - 01/08/12 09:25 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: grelber]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: grelber
What application do you use to view MPEGs (as opposed to WMV files)?

I don't think I've ever watched an MPEG, but I'm not certain, since I'm not even certain what an MPEG is.

If the issue ever came up, though, I think the answer is VLC.
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#20015 - 01/08/12 04:14 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Loc: North of 49th ||
I'll check out VLC. Never heard of it, but it seems to offer something for all OSs.

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#20016 - 01/08/12 06:32 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: artie505
On the other hand, though, that file does exist...contents or no contents, as the case may be:

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict/>
</plist>

Does that mean anything to you?

(Edit: I'll keep an eye peeled to see what, if anything, turns up in that file.)

Well, are there still any 'Plug-in' items remaining in your list then? (and what are the creation/modified dates on that TOC.plist?)

Think maybe i'll visit the manytricks website and see what appears on my Mac. Any particular page you would suggest? [did you play any media file(s) there?]

edit: just went to the main page, and they didn't even so much as 'cookie' me. [an entry did appear labeled cache, but it went away after the usual ⌘⌥E ]

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#20047 - 01/10/12 01:46 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
> Well, are there still any 'Plug-in' items remaining in your list then?

Which list, please?

> (and what are the creation/modified dates on that TOC.plist?)

Created 1-2-12 and modified 1-5-12; it looks like Yasu (which I've found clears some caches that shouldn't be cleared just because they're there) cleared it.

Butler, which hasn't left me a "Plug-in" item other than that one time, just left me a "Cache" item, too.
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#20053 - 01/10/12 07:23 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: artie505
> Well, are there still any 'Plug-in' items remaining in your list then?

Which list, please?

See post #1 (and the thread's title).


Originally Posted By: artie505
> (and what are the creation/modified dates on that TOC.plist?)

Created 1-2-12 and modified 1-5-12; it looks like Yasu (which I've found clears some caches that shouldn't be cleared just because they're there) cleared it.

End of story then. [that's where the plug-in you asked about in post #1 was hiding.]


Originally Posted By: artie505
Butler, which hasn't left me a "Plug-in" item other than that one time, just left me a "Cache" item, too.

Probably you visited some page with a media (movie or sound) file.

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#20080 - 01/12/12 11:41 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
Originally Posted By: artie505
> Well, are there still any 'Plug-in' items remaining in your list then?

Which list, please?

See post #1 (and the thread's title).

Oh... That list! (Sorry, but "list" was a bit obscure.)

I dunno... I hit -⌥-E a million times a day without even looking at what I'm clearing.

Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
Originally Posted By: artie505
Butler, which hasn't left me a "Plug-in" item other than that one time, just left me a "Cache" item, too.

Probably you visited some page with a media (movie or sound) file.

I don't recall ever visiting such a page on the Many Tricks Website, and, in fact, I just got that cache entry without clicking on anything on or navigating away from the Many Tricks home page. (Nothing in TOC.plist, or would that be totally unexpected?)

Edit: I'll try to keep an eye out and see what, if anything, winds up in TOC.plist during my meandering around the Internet.


Edited by artie505 (01/12/12 11:48 PM)
Edit Reason: Edit: & Cleanup
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#20117 - 01/16/12 01:01 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Update:

I just found ytimg.com/Plug-ins in "Privacy." (Edit: It appeared when I viewed a YouTube video.)

Safari Cookies identifies it as a Flash cookie, and it does not appear in TOC.plist...

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict/>
</plist>

confused


Edited by artie505 (01/16/12 01:04 AM)
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#20119 - 01/16/12 06:14 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Do you remember which video it was?
(link please, so i can try the same one)

Also, do you have Perian or Flip4Mac installed?
[some youtube items are wmv, and maybe . . . ]


Edited by Hal Itosis (01/16/12 06:17 AM)

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#20121 - 01/16/12 07:35 AM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
Do you remember which video it was?
(link please, so i can try the same one)

Also, do you have Perian or Flip4Mac installed?
[some youtube items are wmv, and maybe . . . ]

A Simon's Cat fan film is the one (and I just duplicated my experience).

I've got Flip4Mac installed.

Edit: By the way... Sorry for omitting this info from my original post.


Edited by artie505 (01/16/12 11:48 AM)
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#20126 - 01/16/12 02:32 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: artie505]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
Originally Posted By: artie505
A Simon's Cat fan film is the one (and I just duplicated my experience).

I've got Flip4Mac installed.

Edit: By the way... Sorry for omitting this info from my original post.

All i get from viewing that viddy is a "ytimg.com" cache (and TOC.plist was left bare), so perhaps Flip4Mac is convincing Safari that a plug-in should be displayed as well. ::shrug::

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#20128 - 01/16/12 06:03 PM Re: Safari > Prefs > Privacy > Details > Plug-ins??? [Re: Hal Itosis]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
Originally Posted By: artie505
A Simon's Cat fan film is the one (and I just duplicated my experience).

I've got Flip4Mac installed.

Edit: By the way... Sorry for omitting this info from my original post.

All i get from viewing that viddy is a "ytimg.com" cache (and TOC.plist was left bare), so perhaps Flip4Mac is convincing Safari that a plug-in should be displayed as well. ::shrug::

Oops... I also had a ytimg.com cache item, but I had ⌥--E'd it away, so it slipped my mind.
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