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Re: Kernel Panic?
Hal Itosis #16071 06/15/11 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
BTW, is Sophos still on the disabled list... or is it back in the mix?

It's still disabled. Maybe I should pop it back in to see what happens. I've never had issues with it before and my gut, hardly a scientific approach, is telling me that the problem was the early start to Eye TV.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
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NOTEL Carpe Diem's thread has been removed to a new thread new thread entitled Another Kernel Panic? It is sufficiently significant to stand on its own.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
Hal Itosis #16916 08/10/11 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: Hal Itosis
....stuff happens... randomly and singularly sometimes...

That's for sure. It's baaaack....

This morning, after opening from the log-in window, the left side of the menu bar loaded but the right side stopped at the Sophos Icon. I waited a while but nothing further happened.

1) The right side menu bar stuff was working so I did a Shutdown - which took about two minutes to complete. On reboot, the log-in window was frozen.

2) I rebooted and after about 7 minutes of blue screen tried to force a shutdown using the AC button. After a few seconds the log-in screen appeared....but was frozen.

3) I held the AC until I got a complete shutdown and then unplugged the machine for about a minute.

4) A reboot got the chime...about 2 minutes until the blue screen...then, after 3 minutes of blue screen I tried to force a shutdown and got a repeat of #2 above.

5) I again did a forced Shutdown but rebooted using the Option key. I selected the main drive but still got to a frozen log-in window. I repeated Option key and tried booting from my backup drive. Frozen log-in window.

6) I started with an NVRAM clear but that didn't help.

7) I did a Safe Boot but the log-in window was still frozen.

8) I booted with Disk Warrior 4.3 and did a directory rebuild. NADA.

9) I tried booting with my grey iMac disk but after an interminably long time I gave up. Forced shutdown and rebooted with trackball button to eject disk.

10) Rebooted with Snow Leopard 10.6 and did a reinstall. Restart got me to my drive but the audio wasn't working. A check of the sound output showed it had been switched to "CD Spin Doctor Capture Support" rather than Internal Speakers.

My Mail program was no longer accepting Mail.

Everything else seemed to be working so I took the opportunity to delete Sophos using Clean App.

I figured things would improve if I got the system up to date so I did the entire 10.6.8 update. Mistake.

11) A reboot got me back to a frozen log-in window.

12) I did another re-install of SL 10.6 and was able to boot but there were a couple of curiosities.

Sophos was back. Have no idea how.

My mail port was set to the wrong number.

As the top right of the menu bar was loading a white block appeared as if it was the second item loading, and then went away.


I am now operating with SN 10.6 and have no intention of shutting off the machine until I finish a project that has to get out the door by end of day tomorrow.

Meanwhile I entered a few Terminal commands (per earlier in this thread) not knowing whether they'll be helpful or not. I guess they can't hurt.

ryck


Terminal Command: defaults read ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginitems


SessionItems = {
Controller = CustomListItems;
CustomListItems = (
{
Alias = <00000000 00ce0003 00010000 c752ba30 0000482b 00000000 00a4dd3e 00043eb8 0000c5e4 4d740000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001 000c00a4 dd3e009f 2fb1009f 2622000e 00220010 00450079 00650054 00560020 00480065 006c0070 00650072 002e0061 00700070 000f001a 000c004d 00610063 0069006e 0074006f 00730068 00200048 00440012 00324c69 62726172 792f4170 706c6963 6174696f 6e205375 70706f72 742f4579 6554562f 45796554 56204865 6c706572 2e617070 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>;
CustomItemProperties = {
"com.apple.loginitem.HideOnLaunch" = 1;
"com.apple.loginitem.legacyprefs" = {
Hide = 1;
Path = "/Library/Application Support/EyeTV/EyeTV Helper.app";
};
};
Icon = <496d6752 00000108 00000000 4642494c 000000fc 00000002 00000000 00000000 00ec0003 00000000 c752ba30 0000482b 00000000 00043ec1 000b3282 0000c74e c3f40000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001 00180004 3ec10004 3eb90004 3eb800a4 dd3e009f 2fb1009f 2622000e 0016000a 00650079 00650074 0076002e 00690063 006e0073 000f001a 000c004d 00610063 0069006e 0074006f 00730068 00200048 00440012 00504c69 62726172 792f4170 706c6963 6174696f 6e205375 70706f72 742f4579 6554562f 45796554 56204865 6c706572 2e617070 2f436f6e 74656e74 732f5265 736f7572 6365732f 65796574 762e6963 6e730013 00012f00 ffff0000>;
Name = "EyeTV Helper";
},
{
Alias = <00000000 00fa0003 00010000 c752ba30 0000482b 00000000 0002c700 0002c701 0000bdc6 d06a0000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001 00100002 c7000002 c6fe0002 c6fd0000 00f0000e 00300017 004d0069 00630072 006f0073 006f0066 00740020 00410055 00200044 00610065 006d006f 006e002e 00610070 0070000f 001a000c 004d0061 00630069 006e0074 006f0073 00680020 00480044 0012004c 4170706c 69636174 696f6e73 2f4d6963 726f736f 66742041 75746f55 70646174 652e6170 702f436f 6e74656e 74732f4d 61634f53 2f4d6963 726f736f 66742041 55204461 656d6f6e 2e617070 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>;
CustomItemProperties = {
"com.apple.loginitem.legacyprefs" = {
Hide = 0;
Path = "/Applications/Microsoft AutoUpdate.app/Contents/MacOS/Microsoft AU Daemon.app";
};
};
Icon = <496d6752 00000136 00000000 4642494c 0000012a 00000002 00000000 00000000 011a0003 00000000 c752ba30 0000482b 00000000 009f4025 009f4062 0000c696 debb0000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001 0018009f 4025009f 4023009f 4022009f 25b6009f 2573009f 2572000e 0038001b 00470065 006e0065 00720069 00630041 00700070 006c0069 00630061 00740069 006f006e 00490063 006f006e 002e0069 0063006e 0073000f 001a000c 004d0061 00630069 006e0074 006f0073 00680020 00480044 0012005b 53797374 656d2f4c 69627261 72792f43 6f726553 65727669 6365732f 436f7265 54797065 732e6275 6e646c65 2f436f6e 74656e74 732f5265 736f7572 6365732f 47656e65 72696341 70706c69 63617469 6f6e4963 6f6e2e69 636e7300 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>;
Name = "Microsoft AU Daemon.app";
},
{
Alias = <00000000 01060003 00010000 c752ba30 0000482b 00000000 0057ae71 0057ae72 0000c8eb a0410000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001 00100057 ae710057 a8560057 a8550000 00f0000e 003c001d 00410064 006f0062 00650052 00650073 006f0075 00720063 00650053 0079006e 00630068 0072006f 006e0069 007a0065 0072002e 00610070 0070000f 001a000c 004d0061 00630069 006e0074 006f0073 00680020 00480044 0012004c 4170706c 69636174 696f6e73 2f41646f 62652052 65616465 722e6170 702f436f 6e74656e 74732f53 7570706f 72742f41 646f6265 5265736f 75726365 53796e63 68726f6e 697a6572 2e617070 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>;
CustomItemProperties = {
"com.apple.loginitem.HideOnLaunch" = 1;
"com.apple.loginitem.legacyprefs" = {
AliasData = <00000000 01060003 00010000 c752ba30 0000482b 00000000 0057ae71 0057ae72 0000c8eb a0410000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001 00100057 ae710057 a8560057 a8550000 00f0000e 003c001d 00410064 006f0062 00650052 00650073 006f0075 00720063 00650053 0079006e 00630068 0072006f 006e0069 007a0065 0072002e 00610070 0070000f 001a000c 004d0061 00630069 006e0074 006f0073 00680020 00480044 0012004c 4170706c 69636174 696f6e73 2f41646f 62652052 65616465 722e6170 702f436f 6e74656e 74732f53 7570706f 72742f41 646f6265 5265736f 75726365 53796e63 68726f6e 697a6572 2e617070 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>;
Hide = 1;
Path = "/Applications/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/Support/AdobeResourceSynchronizer.app";
};
};
Icon = <496d6752 0000001c 00000000 5359534c 00000010 00000000 4150504c>;
Name = AdobeResourceSynchronizer;
}
);
};
}



Terminal Command: kextstat |grep -v com.apple


Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) <Linked Against>
106 0 0x2e782000 0x5000 0x4000 com.hzsystems.driver.CDSDAudioCaptureSupport (1.5) <98 5 4 3 1>



Terminal Command: defaults read /System/Library/Extensions/CDSDAudioCaptureSupport.kext/Contents/Info

CFBundleDevelopmentRegion = English;
CFBundleExecutable = CDSDAudioCaptureSupport;
CFBundleGetInfoString = "Version 1.5";
CFBundleIdentifier = "com.hzsystems.driver.CDSDAudioCaptureSupport";
CFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion = "6.0";
CFBundleName = CDSDAudioCaptureSupport;
CFBundlePackageType = KEXT;
CFBundleShortVersionString = "1.5";
CFBundleSignature = "????";
CFBundleVersion = "1.5";
IOKitPersonalities = {
CDSDAudioCaptureSupport = {
AudioEngines = (
{
BlockSize = 8192;
Description = "CD Spin Doctor Capture Support";
Formats = (
{
IOAudioStreamAlignment = 1;
IOAudioStreamBitDepth = 32;
IOAudioStreamBitWidth = 32;
IOAudioStreamByteOrder = 0;
IOAudioStreamDriverTag = 0;
IOAudioStreamIsMixable = 1;
IOAudioStreamNumChannels = 2;
IOAudioStreamNumericRepresentation = 1936289396;
IOAudioStreamSampleFormat = 1819304813;
}
);
NumBlocks = 2;
NumStreams = 1;
SampleRates = (
44100,
48000,
96000
);
}
);
CFBundleIdentifier = "com.hzsystems.driver.CDSDAudioCaptureSupport";
IOClass = "com_hzsystems_driver_CDSDAudioCaptureDevice";
IOMatchCategory = "com_hzsystems_driver_CDSDAudioCaptureDevice";
IOProviderClass = IOResources;
IOResourceMatch = IOBSD;
IOUserClientClass = CDSDUserClient;
};
};
OSBundleLibraries = {
"com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily" = "1.5";
"com.apple.kpi.bsd" = "8.0";
"com.apple.kpi.iokit" = "8.0";
"com.apple.kpi.libkern" = "8.0";
"com.apple.kpi.mach" = "8.0";
};
}

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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16920 08/10/11 01:00 PM
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Information Update:

I've left the machine on all night and this morning I see that the information on the right side of the Menu Bar is frozen.

The icons for Bluetooth, Time Machine and Airport are greyed out That information was wrong. Bluetooth is black and, now that my brain is awake, the other two should be grey because they are currently turned off. However, the clock is stopped at 01:11:18.

When cursor is placed over the area, the rotating beachball appears. The items on the left side on the menu all function.

Edit: Is there a terminal Command that will provide information on this development?

ryck

Last edited by ryck; 08/10/11 01:56 PM. Reason: Correction

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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16921 08/10/11 01:57 PM
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This may help, ryck:

Try moving /Users/Your short name/Library/Preferences/com.apple.systemuiserver.plist to your desktop, then restart your Mac; OS X will create a new file either immediately or as needed.

If your problem is resolved, trash the original file and reset any associated preferences; if not, restore the original to from whence it came by overwriting the new one.


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Thanks artie.

I'll give that a try but it may be a couple of hours before I'm able to do so, as I'm working on a project with a deadline and will make sure it's okay and sent before taking a chance on shutting the machine down.

It'd be just my luck I couldn't get back and the project would be stuck in the machine.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
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Wise decision!

By way of clarification, SystemUIServer controls the right side of your menu bar; if you select the plist and hit your space bar you should be able to get an idea.


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artie505 #16925 08/10/11 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: artie505
if you select the plist and hit your space bar you should be able to get an idea.

I did that although the display did not allow me to copy the information. A double-click on the plist gave the information below.

Just to double-check..........I actually can't get to see the menu bar until I'm past the log-in window, which is freezing. Should this plist rebuild address the log-in window issue?

ryck


bplist00â—Š


_!NSNavPanelExpandedSizeForOpenMode_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel_NSNavLastRootDirectory_NSNavLastCurrentDirectory_&NSNavBrowserPreferedColumnContentWidth_NSWindow Frame Closed NetworkZmenuExtrasZ{537, 400} ]/Applications_/Applications/Toast 10 Titanium#@g@_495 477 450 250 0 0 1440 878 ¶
_7/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Bluetooth.menu_9/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu
Extras/TimeMachine.menu_5/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu
Extras/AirPort.menu_7/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu
Extras/TextInput.menu_4/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu
Extras/Volume.menu_3/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu
Extras/Clock.menu;^w캋ÁÚÛ#,LSç…;r®

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I'm not sure if this is another clue but.....

An internet site said it needed Flash so I went to Adobe for the download. The installation got as far as 95% and has locked up. The red button doesn't make it go away and going to the menu bar to use "Quit Adobe Flash Manager" does nothing.

ryck

EDIT: I wonder if there is something wrong with Library Folders. Here's the deal...I have two drives running - the main drive on which all this activity has been taking place, and my Super Duper backup drive which has a clone from a few days ago.

Main Drive.

I noticed that, at the drive level, I have a Library folder that has the same symbol (Building with pillars) as the Library folder in a User folder.

It is 7.94 GB with 57,178 items

Inside the System Folder, the Library Folder is 4.45 GB with 100,056 items

Inside my User folder, the Library folder is 6.51 GB with 43,794 items

Backup Drive.

At the drive level, the Library folder does NOT have the same symbol (Building with pillars) as the Library folder in a User folder.

It is 8.42 GB with 58,643 items

Inside the System Folder, the Library Folder is 4.77 GB with 112,461 items

Inside my User folder, the Library folder is 6.51 GB with 43,794 items (same as the one on the main drive)

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Re: Kernel Panic?
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Originally Posted By: artie505
Try moving /Users/Your short name/Library/Preferences/com.apple.systemuiserver.plist to your desktop, then restart your Mac

That seems to have had the desired effect....although I will admit to "dipping a toe in the water" first. That is, I moved the plist to the desktop but did a restart with my Super Duper clone, as it's the one system I know is complete et cetera.

Well, the machine booted with the backup and my mail program worked properly and promptly downloaded a pile.

I then restarted with the main drive and it booted fine. However, it means I am now sitting with 10.6 on the main drive and a mail program that has isn't working. So, I assume I should be able to update to 10.6.8 without worry.

At that point, I assume that I should boot from my clone in order to fix my mail program. I also assume that will be a matter of dragging/dropping the right things.

Yes? No?

ryck

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I'll do the best I can, which won't be 100%, so you'll probably have to wait for someone to pick up the pieces I leave behind.

1. System/Library/CoreServices/MenuExtras/Clock.menu;^w캋ÁÚÛ#,LSç…;r®

I assume that was your file corruption...the cause of your clock having frozen; mine looks like this: System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu_\

2. > Should this plist rebuild address the log-in window issue?

My guess would be no, but, judging from your post, it seems to no longer be an issue, so...

3. My clone shows OS X custom icons only when I'm booted from it, so yours is behaving consistently with mine.

4. I've never figured out why, but I always see some disparity between file sizes on my main drive and my clone.

5. Your Flash issue is beyond me, but if you really need to install it I suggest that you wait until all of your other issues are resolved and you've updated before addressing the need again.

6. > ...I am now sitting with 10.6 on the main drive and a mail program that has isn't working. So, I assume I should be able to update to 10.6.8 without worry.

At that point, I assume that I should boot from my clone in order to fix my mail program. I also assume that will be a matter of dragging/dropping the right things.


I suggest that you restate your Mail issue and wait for some response before doing anything about it, but, at the same time, I urge you to run your diagnostic tools...Disk Utility, DiskWarrior, TechTool Pro, Drive Genius, whatever, before updating to 10.6.8.

Hope this has been helpful. smile

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An internet site said it needed Flash so I went to Adobe for the download. The installation got as far as 95% and has locked up. The red button doesn't make it go away and going to the menu bar to use "Quit Adobe Flash Manager" does nothing.
I always get that behavior with the AFP installer, except that the installation hangs for just a few seconds after stopping at 95%. Then, it finishes successfully.


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Ryck the library folder will have the library icon (pillars) only on the boot drive. So in order to see the pillars on your clone, you will have to boot from the clone but then the Library folder on your normal boot drive will not have the pillars.

This has nothing to do with the health or lack thereof of the Library folder it is normal behavior.


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Originally Posted By: artie505
1. System/Library/CoreServices/MenuExtras/Clock.menu;^w캋ÁÚÛ#,LSç…;r®

I assume that was your file corruption...

I don't think so. I think the "gibberish" apparently appended to the clock.menu string in ryck's systemuiserver.plist is really just the textual representation of binary information that comes at the tail end of the plist.

Though ryck doesn't say what application opened systemuiserver.plist when he double-clicked it (and I can't replicate his experience without hiding the several instances of Property List Editor I've got on various mounted volumes, since that's the app which opens the file when I double-click it), I'll note that the output from the Terminal command defaults read com.apple.systemuiserver is

Code:
{
    "__NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel" = 1;
    menuExtras =     (
        "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/UniversalAccess.menu",
        "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Script Menu.menu",
        "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Volume.menu",
        "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/TextInput.menu",
        "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu",
        "/Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/Keychain.menu",
        "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/User.menu"
    );
}

and the content of the file when opened with TextWrangler is

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
	<key>__NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel</key>
	<true/>
	<key>menuExtras</key>
	<array>
		<string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/UniversalAccess.menu</string>
		<string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Script Menu.menu</string>
		<string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Volume.menu</string>
		<string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/TextInput.menu</string>
		<string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu</string>
		<string>/Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/Keychain.menu</string>
		<string>/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/User.menu</string>
	</array>
</dict>
</plist>

but the content of the file when opened in TextEdit is

bplist00Ò ZmenuExtras_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel§ _=/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/UniversalAccess.menu_9/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Script Menu.menu_4/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Volume.menu_7/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/TextInput.menu_3/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu_L/Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/Keychain.menu_2/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/User.menu  ;Cƒ¿ö0fµê ë

(This isn't to say that ryck's systemuiserver.plist wasn't corrupt, just that the apparently nonsensical characters you noticed are unlikely to have been the manifestation thereof.)

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Re: Kernel Panic?
artie505 #16943 08/11/11 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: artie505
Hope this has been helpful. smile

Well, I'm back up and running this morning but I'll continue to keep an eye on things. Sophos is back in place although i'm somewhat "wondering about it".

As Hal once said "It's an early riser", and it is where the menu bar stopped loading.

I wonder if a preventive use of something like Preferential Treatment would have avoided some problems.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
jchuzi #16944 08/11/11 02:22 PM
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I always get that behavior with the AFP installer, except that the installation hangs for just a few seconds after stopping at 95%. Then, it finishes successfully.

In this case it was stopped for quite a while and, in the end, I used opt/command/esc to get rid of it.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
dkmarsh #16945 08/11/11 02:23 PM
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Though ryck doesn't say what application opened systemuiserver.plist when he double-clicked it...


It was Text Edit. Interestingly, I just did a double-click on com.apple.systemuiserver.plist and this time Text Edit says only:

bplist00—_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel
./

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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16962 08/12/11 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: ryck
....I'll continue to keep an eye on things. Sophos is back in place although I'm somewhat "wondering about it".

I just logged in and the right side of the menu bar stopped loading with only the Sophos and Spotlight icons in view. I immediately opened Sophos Remove and uninstalled it. Everything loaded after that.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16965 08/12/11 05:45 AM
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> I wonder if a preventive use of something like Preferential Treatment would have avoided some problems.

I don't know whether it would have saved you...

Preferential Treatment checks for non-compliant XML code, which, I believe think, is not the issue over which you tripped.

Further, non-compliant XML code does not even necessarily mean that a plist will not function as intended.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16966 08/12/11 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: ryck
Originally Posted By: dkmarsh
Though ryck doesn't say what application opened systemuiserver.plist when he double-clicked it...


It was Text Edit. Interestingly, I just did a double-click on com.apple.systemuiserver.plist and this time Text Edit says only:

bplist00—_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel
./

ryck

That's odd.

Have you either restarted or logged out/in since trashing your original plist?


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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16967 08/12/11 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: ryck
Originally Posted By: ryck
....I'll continue to keep an eye on things. Sophos is back in place although I'm somewhat "wondering about it".

I just logged in and the right side of the menu bar stopped loading with only the Sophos and Spotlight icons in view. I immediately opened Sophos Remove and uninstalled it. Everything loaded after that.

ryck

Did you try leaving Sophos installed but with its menu bar icon de-activated?

Edit: Hmmm... I don't see Sophos included in the plist you posted; I wonder what's up with that?

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Re: Kernel Panic?
dkmarsh #16968 08/12/11 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: dkmarsh
Originally Posted By: artie505
1. System/Library/CoreServices/MenuExtras/Clock.menu;^w캋ÁÚÛ#,LSç…;r®

I assume that was your file corruption...

I don't think so. I think the "gibberish" apparently appended to the clock.menu string in ryck's systemuiserver.plist is really just the textual representation of binary information that comes at the tail end of the plist.

[....]

but the content of the file when opened in TextEdit is

bplist00Ò ZmenuExtras_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel§ _=/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/UniversalAccess.menu_9/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Script Menu.menu_4/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Volume.menu_7/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/TextInput.menu_3/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu_L/Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/Keychain.menu_2/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/User.menu  ;Cƒ¿ö0fµê ë

(This isn't to say that ryck's systemuiserver.plist wasn't corrupt, just that the apparently nonsensical characters you noticed are unlikely to have been the manifestation thereof.)

Hmmm... Perhaps I was thrown by ryck's "gibberish's" appearing to be an integral part of his string...the "normally appended" "gibberish" seemingly MIA, and perhaps what I reacted to actually was the corruption.

My own plist, opened in TextEdit, looks like so:

bplist00“_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevelZmenuExtras • _R~/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuMeterCPU.menu_5/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/AirPort.menu_7/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/TextInput.menu_3/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu_\/Users/artie/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuCracker.menu
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Yours looks different than mine (Edit 2: although your "gibberish" is separated from the final string, same as mine), but I believe you're not running OS X 10.6.8 as ryck and I are?

Edit: Aside removed in favor of its own post.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
artie505 #16971 08/12/11 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: artie505
That's odd.

Have you either restarted or logged out/in since trashing your original plist?

Yes. That was the case and, to double-check, I've done it again (trashed the plist, shutdown, and restarted) and just got this same result.

bplist00—_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel
./

I note that the menu bar loading pretty close to instantaneous. I've just entered Hal's command kextstat |grep -v com.apple into Terminal and got this:

Last login: Fri Aug 12 03:09:59 on console
user-names-imac:~ username$ kextstat |grep -v com.apple
Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) <Linked Against>
104 0 0x1670000 0x5000 0x4000 com.hzsystems.driver.CDSDAudioCaptureSupport (1.5) <102 5 4 3 1>
user-inames-imac:~ username$

Originally Posted By: artie505
Did you try leaving Sophos installed but with its menu bar icon de-activated?

Edit: Hmmm... I don't see Sophos included in the plist you posted; I wonder what's up with that?

I assume you mean the plist info in Post #16925. If so, and I'm only guessing here - is it meaningful that "Toast 10 Titanium#@g@_495 477 450 250 0 0 1440 878" is there, although it's not something that appears in the bar?

Note that in Post #16916, Item 10, I mentioned that my audio stopped working and that: "A check of the sound output showed it had been switched to "CD Spin Doctor Capture Support" rather than Internal Speakers."

Earlier in the thread there were references to "com.hzsystems.driver" - a non-Apple kernel extension which seemed to be connected to CD Spin Doctor, an app that comes with Roxio Toast.

joemike mentioned he has CD Spin Doctor but doesn't have that driver.

So I went to the extensions folder just now and removed "CDSDAudioCaptureSupport.kext", rebooted, and entered kextstat |grep -v com.apple into Terminal. I got the same result as above. I also found that the extension was back in the Extensions Folder.

I have just used Clean App to remove CD Spin (there were 2 versions) and the associated files, including plists. I also went back to the Systems Extensions folder and again removed "CDSDAudioCaptureSupport.kext".

I have restarted and entered kextstat |grep -v com.apple into Terminal, getting this result:

Last login: Fri Aug 12 04:14:39 on console
user-names-imac:~ username$ kextstat |grep -v com.apple
Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) <Linked Against>
55 0 0x354ca000 0x3000 0x2000 com.olympus.CamFWSerialBusProtocolTransport (2.0.0) <54 53 49 37 8 5 4 3 1>
user-ingliss-imac:~ username$

A quick check of Extensions Folder - and "CDSDAudioCaptureSupport.kext" remains gone.

So I'm going back to bed. I just got up for a drink of water and thought I'd do a 'quick perusal of FTM'. Sigh.

ryck


Updated plist information (10:52):


Double-click gets:

bplist00—_ __NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel
./

kextstat |grep -v com.apple gets:

Last login: Fri Aug 12 09:51:58 on console
user-names-imac:~ username$ kextstat |grep -v com.apple
Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) <Linked Against>
user-names-imac:~ username$

Another log-in, just now, returns the same Terminal information as above except for a changed log-in time.

Note: Just guessing, but perhaps this is logical as the only items in the right side of the Menu Bar are Apple functions - Time Machine, Bluetooth, Audio, Clock, Spotlight.

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Re: Kernel Panic?
ryck #16988 08/13/11 06:40 AM
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> Note: Just guessing, but perhaps this is logical as the only items in the right side of the Menu Bar are Apple functions - Time Machine, Bluetooth, Audio, Clock, Spotlight.

1. I tried to fix my own plist to include nothing but Apple functions, but I couldn't figure out how to get rid of MenuMeters's MenuCracker, so...

2. After looking at my own menu bar I realized that app related items do not (necessarily?) appear in com.apple.systemuiserver.plist, so Sophos's not being there is not unexpected.

3. I can't even translate Hal's command into English, so I've got no idea what its output means.

4. Toast... confused

Sorry, ryck, but I'm out of ideas. frown


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Re: Kernel Panic?
artie505 #16991 08/13/11 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: artie505
Sorry, ryck, but I'm out of ideas. frown

Why the frown ? I've got a smile because I'm up and running again. Thanks for all your time and help

Originally Posted By: artie505
After looking at my own menu bar I realized that app related items do not (necessarily?) appear in com.apple.systemuiserver.plist, so Sophos's not being there is not unexpected.

My bad. I should have been clearer. I removed Sophos using the "Remove Sophos" tool provided with by Sophos. However, I am thinking I will pop it back in as it was only a "suspect" and may not have been the cause. No one else in the Forum has reported any Sophos problems.

Besides, removing the other suspect, CD Spin Doctor extension "CDSDAudioCaptureSupport.kext", seems to have made the most difference. I am even seeing a general improvement in the speed with which applications like Safari and Mail load.


I am going to toss out a couple of observations for any passers by, only because I am getting different results than others get and I wonder if I should be concerned.

I have wondered why, after deleting the "CDSDAudioCaptureSupport.kext" extension, why I got the information 55 0 0x354ca000 0x3000 0x2000 com.olympus.CamFWSerialBusProtocolTransport (2.0.0) <54 53 49 37 8 5 4 3 1> using Hals' command kextstat |grep -v com.apple

It has only happened that one time. Since then, the result has consistently been:

Last login: Sat Aug 13 04:11:48 on console
douglas-ingliss-imac:~ douglasinglis$ kextstat |grep -v com.apple
Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) <Linked Against>
douglas-ingliss-imac:~ douglasinglis$

I have also used dkmarsh's command defaults read com.apple.systemuiserver and got this short result.

Last login: Sat Aug 13 04:21:19 on ttys000
user-names-imac:~ username$ defaults read com.apple.systemuiserver
{
"__NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel" = 1;
}
user-names-imac:~ username$


However, when dkmarsh used the same command the result included a bunch of additional information

Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

menuExtras = (
"/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/UniversalAccess.menu",
"/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Script Menu.menu",
"/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Volume.menu",
"/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/TextInput.menu",
"/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu",
"/Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/Keychain.menu",
"/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/User.menu"
);
}

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