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Date and Time format in menu bar
#15588 05/15/11 08:21 PM
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Hi:

The time and date options in the Systems Preference does not seem to be working properly.

I am able to customize the way I would like these to appear in the Menu Bar within the Systems Preferences menu. However, when I click "OK", the date/time information does not change in the menu bar at the top of the screen.

I seem to recall that someone else experienced a similar problem before and discovered a work-around. However, a search in this Forum did not find the solution.

Anyone have any idea how I can get the customizing I do in System Preference to change the Menu Bar appearance as desired?

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MG2009 #15589 05/15/11 08:34 PM
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Your issue sounds vaguely familiar, but exactly which version of OS X are you running?


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MG2009 #15590 05/15/11 09:01 PM
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One workaround is to use wClock. I have used it for many years (and continue to do so (despite the ability to change appearance via System Preferences) and I like it very much. In fact, I have opted not to use Apple's clock in the menu bar.


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jchuzi #15592 05/15/11 10:06 PM
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I've used MagiCal for years.

It supplements Apple time (It doesn't offer my preferred format.) with day/date...wonderful, because it takes up very little menu bar space and can be pinned to either the right or left-hand end of your menulet string, and a drop-down calendar. (Check me out! smile )


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artie505 #15594 05/15/11 10:21 PM
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Leopard 10.5 on an iMAC PPC G5.

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jchuzi #15595 05/15/11 10:43 PM
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Thanks for the wCLOCK link, too.

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artie505 #15596 05/15/11 11:05 PM
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wClock has a drop-down calendar as well, and it too can be positioned anywhere on the screen.


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jchuzi #15597 05/15/11 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
wClock has a drop-down calendar as well, and it too can be positioned anywhere on the screen.

I think you misread, Jon... MagiCal's day/date menulet can be pinned to either the right or left end of your menulet string.


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artie505 #15598 05/15/11 11:34 PM
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Mea culpa. You're right, Artie. Old age hasn't just crept up, it's at a dead run (pun intended and very unfortunate).


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MG2009 #15599 05/15/11 11:41 PM
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I was getting set to boot into Leopard when I remembered both having run into an issue similar to yours a few years ago and that the solution lay in SysPrefs > Language & Text > Formats.

I think you may have to set "Region: Custom" and adjust some other stuff in there.

Hope this helps. smile


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jchuzi #15600 05/15/11 11:48 PM
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> Old age hasn't just crept up, it's at a dead run (pun intended and very unfortunate).

I'm sorry to hear that, Jon; I hope it isn't as serious a problem as you've suggested. frown


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artie505 #15603 05/16/11 09:28 AM
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I was just being facetious. I'm at the age when I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately, it's an oncoming train. tongue


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jchuzi #15604 05/16/11 09:42 AM
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Thanks for the reassurance; I tend to take things literally. smile


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artie505 #15615 05/17/11 06:30 AM
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Mystery solved.

In SYSTEM PREFERENCES . . .

1. select Date and Time;

2. select format for desired "look" of the Menulet;

3. select clock;

4. select : Show date and time in menu bar.

BUT here is the kicker . . .

There are TWO more steps of options to complete. One for TIME and the other for DATE.

I had only completed the TIME portion so, naturally, the DATE options (unchecked) did not give me the desired result before.

P.S. A computer is only as good as the operator!!!! blush

Thanks, y'all, for your input.

(After all is said and done, I rather like the wCLOCK 3.0 application, so will likely use that instead.)

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MG2009 #15616 05/17/11 06:45 AM
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Happy to hear that you've solved you problem. smile

Enjoy wCLOCK; Apple's time/day/date options leave much to be desired.


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artie505 #15730 05/27/11 07:26 AM
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Well, Folks.

I WAS enjoying the wClock application but something has gone awry.

When I LOGOUT, the display resolution changes so that the LOGIN panel (showing the three Users and Sleep/Restart/Shutdown) is super huge - something in the neighbourhood of 800 x 600. My usual resolution display setting is: 1920 x 1200 on the new MBP (2011) with Snow Leopard.

Only when I leave wClock open while I log out does the problem occur ; logging in again thereafter causes the display to stay at 800 x 600. IF I close wClock before I log out, there is no change in the resolution.

Any ideas as to what is going on here with wClock? Any fixes? (Is there a .plist somewhere which I can trash?)

Thanks for any insight anyone can provide.

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wClock's .plist: /Users/Your short name/Library/Preferences/com.(*).plist.

(*) This will probably specify either wClock, the developer's name, or both.

You can also look in /Users/Your short name/Library/Application Support where wClock may have placed a folder.

Have you visited the developer's Web site to see if there's a FAQ section?


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The appropriate plist is ~/Library/Preferences/com.wolfware.wClock.plist. You can also try ~/Library/Caches/com.wolfware.wClock


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jchuzi #15736 05/27/11 08:15 PM
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Thanks, Guys.

This is where the .plist was located:

~/Library/Preferences/com.wolfware.wClock.plist

I trashed - and shredded - it; problem still occured. So I trashed (and shredded) the complete application (including the .dmg).

Downloaded a new copy from the wClock website and installed it without a hitch.

HOWEVER . . . the same problem still occurs. So I presume this application just doesn't like me. tongue

Any other applications out there that might WORK with the MBP (2011) using Snow Leopard?



Note: Decided to give MagiCal a try. Works like a charm. grin

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MG2009 #15737 05/27/11 08:42 PM
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It's working fine for me in Snow Leopard. Did you try trashing the cache that I mentioned in my previous post?


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jchuzi #15738 05/27/11 08:53 PM
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Hi, again.

Yes, I looked into the CACHE folder you mentioned. There was no "wolfware" cache there.

P.S. The only traces of the application that I could find were noted in my last posting. All of those items were trashed/shredded.

As it turns out, MagiCal has more options to tinker with for altering the look of the display in the menu bar - which is a bonus.

Thanks, again, for your help.

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Originally Posted By: MG2009
Hi, again.

Yes, I looked into the CACHE folder you mentioned. There was no "wolfware" cache there.

P.S. The only traces of the application that I could find were noted in my last posting. All of those items were trashed/shredded.

As it turns out, MagiCal has more options to tinker with for altering the look of the display in the menu bar - which is a bonus.

Thanks, again, for your help.

MagiCal is an unsung gem; all else aside, it gives you day & date in your menu bar in an almost impossibly small space.

Maybe your problem with wClock was rooted in that missing cache folder; I suggest that you mention it to the developer.


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MG2009 #15740 05/27/11 10:16 PM
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Just for the hell of it, I d/l'ed wClock, and it didn't generate a cache folder for me, either.

I found it curious, though, that Finder asked me to authenticate before allowing me to trash the app. (The .dmg went without a whimper. )


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artie505 #15741 05/27/11 11:21 PM
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I can't test this, but I wonder if my cache folder is a leftover from previous OS versions. My wClock installation has been with me since 10.4.


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Originally Posted By: jchuzi
I can't test this, but I wonder if my cache folder is a leftover from previous OS versions. My wClock installation has been with me since 10.4.

That thought crossed my mind, but it crossed so fast that I forgot to post.

Why don't you move your cache to your desktop, restart, and see what happens?


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