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#14396 - 02/26/11 01:29 PM Keeping Email link from Word to Website
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
I put special notices onto my daughter's website using the following process.

1. Create in Word.

2. Print as PDF

3. Modify in Graphic Converter. Usually this is just removing extra white space and sizing to 608 pixel width.

4. Save as JPEG. (Note: the Content Management System only accepts 608 pixel-wide JPEGs)

The problem is trying to get continuity of email links that start off okay in Word, and are even there after the Word print to PDF conversion - if I open the PDF in Preview.

However, by the time I get to the end of modifying in Graphic Converter, a link is just a text image.

Support at GC advises I cannot accomplish steps 3 and 4 and keep the link. Is there a way to do those steps in Preview? If not, what is an easy, not too expensive, way to accomplish this? The need for the email link functionality is only periodic, but would be nice to have.

ryck


Edited by ryck (02/26/11 01:32 PM)
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#14397 - 02/26/11 02:07 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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By going to GC and saving as jpeg, you convert text to an image format, and in the process lose the link. It would be really shocking and utterly wrong if that wouldn't be the case. Changing the app to do the same thing won't change that end result. So, whatever you do, keep the image and text/url parts separate to retain their essential properties. (A pdf file is a special case, as you noted.)
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#14398 - 02/26/11 04:48 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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There is a way in HTML to define a clickable hot spot on an image but as restrictive as the content manager seems to be I doubt you would be able to upload the necessary code as well as the image.
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#14401 - 02/26/11 10:59 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: joemikeb]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
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Originally Posted By: joemikeb
There is a way in HTML to define a clickable hot spot on an image but ...

I'm willing to give it a try if you can point me to where I could read how. If it doesn't work, nothing's lost but a bit of time.

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#14408 - 02/27/11 07:56 AM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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If you google imagemap, you'll find an inundation of material on the subject (for example, Creating Image Maps).

In your case, the map would be the entire jpg, and you would define the clickable area by using the coordinates of the rectangular area of the image in which the email address is located.
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#14412 - 02/27/11 02:38 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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Registered: 08/03/09
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
How does your content management system work?

If you simply upload a picture, then you can not make an image map. To create an image map, you must write HTML code. The HTML code for an image map looks something like this:

<img src="thelinktothepicture.jpg.jpg" border="0" />
<map name="227067249c9901ff7">
<area shape="rect" coords="154,148,339,173" href="thelinkyouwant" />
</map>

If your CMS does ot allow you to write HTML code directly, you'll need to upload a PDF, not a JPEG--it's the only way to do what you want.
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#14414 - 02/27/11 03:56 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: tacit]
ryck Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: tacit
If your CMS does ot allow you to write HTML code directly, you'll need to upload a PDF, not a JPEG--it's the only way to do what you want.

I'll have to inquire on both the HTML question and the possibility of uploading a PDF. I wonder if the JPEG is required for the variable length. That is, it doesn't matter how long the JPEG is, the window resizes. It's just particular about width.

If a PDF can be uploaded I would be left with only one problem, albeit an important one. I go from Word print to PDF and, if I open in Preview, the link remains. However, if I open in Graphic Converter the link is gone.

Therefore I would need to be able to do my simple edits in something that doesn't break the link.

ryck


Edited by ryck (02/27/11 03:58 PM)
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#14473 - 03/01/11 12:14 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Yep, when you open a PDF in GraphicConverter (or Photoshop or any other pixel image editor), the PDF is destroyed. Everything in the PDF is broken up into pixels. This means that text is no longer text and that all content such as liks, notes, annotations, and so on are removed.

Editing a PDF in a pixel-based image editor is almost always a bad idea. There are PDF editors that let you edit a PDF directly without destroying it. What edits do you do?
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#14476 - 03/01/11 12:48 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: tacit
What edits do you do?

If I arrange the work differently I could make the PDF part really easy - just resize to 608 pixels width.

FYI, I'm still waiting to hear if the CMS will accept a 608 pixel PDF rather than JPEG.

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#14494 - 03/01/11 05:41 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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Ah. You're misunderstanding what a PDF is.

There is no such thing as a "608 pixel PDF" unless the PDF has first been destroyed by being broken up into pixels. Before you bring the PDF into GraphicConverter, it is not made of pixels at all. It can not be 608 pixels because there are no pixels in it.

There are two kinds of computer graphics: "vector" graphics and "raster" graphics. Raster graphics are just like tile mosaics. Every tile is a "pixel."

Vector graphics are made of mathematical descriptions of curves, lines, and shapes. They're not made of pixels at all, and as such they have no pixel dimensions.

GraphicConverter is incapable of working with vector images. When you make a PDF in Word, it is a vector image; it's not made of pixels. As soon as GraphicConverter touches it, GraphicConverter breaks it up into pixels; in the process of doing this, it destroys text (the text is turned into pixels) and it removes everything that can not be described in pixels (which is why links, annotations, and so on are removed).

You will need to find out if your CMS can accept vector PDF files that have no pixel dimensions.
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#14495 - 03/01/11 05:47 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: tacit]
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Wow! Thanks for that.

You just explained terms, raster and vector, about which I've been curious for ages but didn't have enough knowledge to ask even a semi-intelligent question.
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#14496 - 03/01/11 07:10 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: tacit]
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Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: Okanagan Valley
Originally Posted By: tacit
Ah. You're misunderstanding what a PDF is.

And now we understand why I'm still waiting to hear. The CMS people are still scratching their heads trying to figure out what I meant by a 608 pixel wide PDF.

Originally Posted By: tacit
You will need to find out if your CMS can accept vector PDF files that have no pixel dimensions.

Okay...but I still don't understand something. If the system currently wants a document (JPEG) of a particular width, however that width is calculated, how does the PDF become the same width?

e.g. If the JPEG had to be 5,280 units wide (call them feet) but the PDF was a single measurement (say a mile wide), it's still the same physical width. Are there such equivalents in the world of raster and vector graphics, or does the CMS need to be able to adjust the PDF to fit the available space?

In other words, do I need to be asking if they can make the PDF fit, whatever width it might be?

Here's hoping you manage to understand the question. And, thanks.

ryck
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#14499 - 03/02/11 07:48 AM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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Because vector graphic images are made of mathematical descriptions of curves, lines, and shapes they are easily scalable. In other words they can be expanded or compressed across an almost infinite range of sizes without distortion. (See this Wikipedia article for a full explanation of how this works.) Raster graphics such as jpegs are scalable across only a very limited range without becoming really ugly. (See this Wikipedia article for more information on raster images.)

While PDFs are vector graphics, raster images can either be encoded or embedded in a PDF document. Rather than go into a long dissertation on PDFs here take a look at this Wikipedia article.
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#14511 - 03/02/11 04:52 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
Originally Posted By: ryck
Okay...but I still don't understand something. If the system currently wants a document (JPEG) of a particular width, however that width is calculated, how does the PDF become the same width?

e.g. If the JPEG had to be 5,280 units wide (call them feet) but the PDF was a single measurement (say a mile wide), it's still the same physical width. Are there such equivalents in the world of raster and vector graphics, or does the CMS need to be able to adjust the PDF to fit the available space?


Joemikeb has it right--the vector PDF that you get out of Word can be scaled to fit any size you like, from postage stamp to billboard.

A PDF does have a "print size" associated with it; if you make a PDF from a Word file that's set to 8.5x11" paper, the PDF will print at 8.5x11" unless you specify otherwise. However, this has no bearing on a pixel dimension, or on how a Web browser shows it. A Web browser will display it on a computer screen at whatever size the browser is instructed to.
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#14522 - 03/03/11 01:20 PM Re: Keeping Email link from Word to Website [Re: ryck]
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Nice thing about vector graphics is they scale perfectly. Fonts are usually vector graphics. You can think of a vector graphic as a file describing how you move your pen on the page to draw the image. Just double all the movements and you smoothly double the image width. Raster is more like a graph paper and it defines where you place your tictacs. If you double or triple etc that, it tends to "get blocky" because the dots become squares.
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