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#13778 - 01/17/11 05:39 AM Steve Jobs: New developments
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#13779 - 01/17/11 09:36 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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and in unrelated news, Apple's stock drops 13 pts
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#13780 - 01/17/11 10:20 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Virtual1]
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Originally Posted By: Virtual1
and in unrelated news, Apple's stock drops 13 pts

Excellent. Let it drop a little lower and then it's a good time to buy. grin

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#13781 - 01/17/11 10:28 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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Originally Posted By: jchuzi

Yeah, it's weird they even bother to announce it. Do we track Ballmer's movements every single day? Steve should just go off whenever he needs, and —if folks ask for his whereabouts —just say "Steve can monitor and manage Apple's affairs no matter where he's located."

This leave might also be about familiarizing folks with the name "Tim Cook"... because (like it or not), all our names will wind up in the Ad Astra thread eventually.

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#13782 - 01/17/11 10:48 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Hal Itosis]
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makes you wonder just how easily Steve's physician could get himself charged with insider trading?
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#13783 - 01/17/11 02:23 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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I liked the salutation in his note to the Apple employees. We've all worked in companies where it would be "Memo to all staff".

Not Jobs. His note begins "Team,"

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#13784 - 01/17/11 02:59 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Hal Itosis]
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Do we track Ballmer's movements every single day?

If Ballmer were to take a leave, I'd expect shares of Microsoft to rise. laugh
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#13787 - 01/18/11 01:09 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Hal Itosis]
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They had to announce it; they already took flack from shareholders for not being entirely candid about his last leave.

(The perception, at least, is that) Ballmer is nowhere as near important to Microsoft as Jobs is to Apple.
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#13789 - 01/18/11 02:52 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: ryck]
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Originally Posted By: ryck
I liked the salutation in his note to the Apple employees. We've all worked in companies where it would be "Memo to all staff".

Not Jobs. His note begins "Team,"

ryck
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#13792 - 01/18/11 07:12 AM doesn't take a Nostradamus [Re: jchuzi]
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#13801 - 01/18/11 02:04 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
ryck Online


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Originally Posted By: jchuzi

That shows how smart Jobs is in terms of his management style. Even if he lives to be 95 he still wants the company to flourish after he's gone. He knows that he won't have accomplished anything if his demise means it falls apart.

Therefore he has a strong smart team around him, and he works on maintaining that team philosophy throughout the organization. He knows that, while people think of him as "the smartest person in the room", there are people on his team who are smarter than him in certain areas - and he works on getting the best from them.

Now, that's smart!

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Edited by ryck (01/18/11 02:08 PM)
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#13912 - 01/24/11 04:53 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: ryck]
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#13913 - 01/24/11 05:20 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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The real question, and if it has been asked, it certainly hasn't been answered, is how many projects are already either in the concept stage or under active development in anticipation of Steve's eventual departure?

I'm sure Leonardo had a great team, too, but a team without a visionary...? [Shakes head sadly]
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#13916 - 01/24/11 10:21 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: artie505]
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My opinion here, is that whoever takes over for Steve needs to not try to be a replacement. Anyone that's watched Dr Who knows, the new Doctor is not trying to be an imitation or replacement. They're completely fresh. Apple would benefit from this, but Steve has a very specific successful magic that is for the most part unparalleled anywhere in the 'biz, so finding someone with a fresh new image that has that same magic could be next to impossible.

So, copycat is the safe way, but not the best way...
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#13918 - 01/24/11 10:34 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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So since I'm usually in charge of "everyone wants to discuss it but nobody has the nerve/courage to bring it up", things around here,

when do we expect to move this discussion to the "Ad astra" thread?
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#13919 - 01/24/11 12:57 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Virtual1]
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Originally Posted By: Virtual1
So since I'm usually in charge of "everyone wants to discuss it but nobody has the nerve/courage to bring it up", things around here, when do we expect to move this discussion to the "Ad astra" thread?
Realistically, probably sooner rather than later. Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst ones to have. Steve has survived longer than my Uncle Bernie, who died 3 months after his diagnosis.

Let this be a lesson to all of us: No matter what you think you have accomplished during your lifetime, you, yourself, won't survive. My wife has a Pogo sweatshirt that shows someone pouring water over Pogo's head and saying, "Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent".
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#13922 - 01/24/11 07:18 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Virtual1]
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Originally Posted By: Virtual1
So since I'm usually in charge of "everyone wants to discuss it but nobody has the nerve/courage to bring it up", things around here,

when do we expect to move this discussion to the "Ad astra" thread?

If you're in charge, then shouldn't you be telling instead of asking? confused

I say they should give the gig to Noah Wyle on a permanent basis. wink

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#14247 - 02/17/11 02:24 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Hal Itosis]
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#14249 - 02/17/11 01:37 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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And now the National Enquirer (America's most trusted news source) is getting into the fray. They've found at least a few "experts" that are giving him ~3 weeks.
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#14253 - 02/18/11 04:17 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: Virtual1]
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Steve Jobs reported in attendance in meeting with Obama I'm sure that the National Enquirer will have a scholarly, cogent article about this.
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#14255 - 02/18/11 05:46 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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The morbid dissection begins.
CTV's "Canada am" just ran an interview piece discussing what Jobs's death might mean for Apple's stock and other delightful unpleasantnesses.
Sheesh, and double sheesh. frown

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#14261 - 02/18/11 08:05 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: grelber]
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yes the vultures certainly are starting to circle early aren't they?
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#14262 - 02/18/11 09:28 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
ryck Online


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Originally Posted By: Virtual1
And now the National Enquirer (America's most trusted news source) is getting into the fray.

Originally Posted By: jchuzi
I'm sure that the National Enquirer will have a scholarly, cogent article about this.

Indeed. Several years ago, standing in a supermarket line, I came to the conclusion that tabloids weren't reliable sources of information. One paper had a picture of two deer hunters, rifles at their sides, who had bagged strange trophies.

The hunters were holding giant grasshoppers, about five feet long and a foot thick. I was taken aback until I looked closely at the rifles...they were 22 calibre.

I knew then that something was wrong about this story. Let's face it, if they really were deer hunters they wouldn't have been carrying 22's. Who do these papers think they're fooling? laugh

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#14263 - 02/18/11 09:48 AM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: ryck]
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Why are you complaining, Ryck? I know for a fact (dutifully reported by the National Enquirer) that Bigfoot was shot with a .22 and is recovering in the same hospital as Elvis. grin
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#14270 - 02/18/11 11:43 PM Re: Steve Jobs: New developments [Re: jchuzi]
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You're sadly behind on your news, Jon; Bigfoot signed himself out of the hospital yesterday and has eloped with Kim Kardashian.
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