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#12460 - 10/16/10 12:55 PM Google Update Intaller
spmcc123 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Loc: Portland/Abu Dhabi
mad Google Update Intaller pops up every 15-30 minutes since I loaded Picassa and Chrome. Followed instructions to remove all related programs here involving typing either of these into Terminal

Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app
/Contents/Resources/install.py --uninstall


or

sudo /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app
/Contents/Resources/install.py --uninstall


but get error messages in either case. For example:

sudo: /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app
/Contents/Resources/install.py: command not found


Hate this pop-up and will make do with no Google downloads (except Google Earth) until they fix this issue... In the mean time, how can I get rid of this nasty feature?


Edited by dianne (10/16/10 03:20 PM)
Edit Reason: inserted hard returns to italicized text to eliminate window stretching in Safari.
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#12461 - 10/16/10 01:38 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: spmcc123]
jchuzi Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
Did you type those commands or paste them? Assuming that they were correct, pasting is much less prone to errors, to say the least.
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#12463 - 10/16/10 01:59 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: spmcc123]
Hal Itosis Offline


Registered: 09/03/09
Loc: 10.6.8 (build 10K549)
You could try listing that file, to see if it's there:
Code:
ls -l /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/\
Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app/Contents/Resources/install.py

(apparently, not in my case):
Code:
ls: /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/\
Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app/Contents/Resources/install.py: 
No such file or directory

Then start "walking up the tree", to see what is there and at which point:

i.e., is anything in the Resources folder (or does it even exist):
Code:
ls -la /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/\
Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app/Contents/Resources

...and so on, up the hierarchy:
Code:
ls -la /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/\
Contents/Resources/GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent.app/Contents

ls -la /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/\
Contents/Resources

ls -la /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate.bundle/\
Contents

ls -la /Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate

ls -la /Library/Google

Usually 'command not found' means the item simply isn't there, or the pathname was entered incorrectly (as Jon suggests).

--

Does this installer popup every 30 minutes even if you're offline?


Edited by Hal Itosis (10/16/10 02:09 PM)
Edit Reason: decided to go with \ escape + newline for easier reading

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#12466 - 10/16/10 03:23 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: spmcc123]
dianne Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09
spmcc123,

Might any information in Google Updater for the Mac - FAQs be useful?

The instructions for How do I uninstall Google Updater? differ from those you cite in What is Google Software Update?
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#12467 - 10/16/10 08:07 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: jchuzi]
spmcc123 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Loc: Portland/Abu Dhabi
Pasted. Several times it asked me for password and I could not type it in Terminal (don't know why). Other times it went straight to error message
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#12469 - 10/17/10 02:37 AM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: spmcc123]
jchuzi Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Loc: New York State
When you type your password in Terminal, it always appears that nothing is happening. This has been designed into the OS to prevent someone from seeing the password. Rest assured that it has been entered. After typing the password, press Return to execute the command.
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#12470 - 10/17/10 02:50 AM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: spmcc123]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
> Other times it went straight to error message

A "sudo" command requires a password; "non-sudos" do not.

Edit: Also, once you enter you password during a Terminal session it does not ask for one again.


Edited by artie505 (10/17/10 02:53 AM)
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#12471 - 10/17/10 04:01 AM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: artie505]
dkmarsh Offline

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Registered: 08/04/09

Quote:
...once you enter you password during a Terminal session it does not ask for one again.

That's not quite right. The password provides a short window (five minutes, by default) during which sudo actions can be undertaken; then the password will need to be entered again.

From man sudo:

Once a user has been authenticated, a time-stamp is updated and the user may then use sudo without a password for a short period of time (5 minutes unless overridden in sudoers).
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#12481 - 10/17/10 04:04 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: dkmarsh]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Thanks for clarifying that.

I've needed to re-enter my password on occasion, but I always thought it was because I'd quit and relaunched Terminal...that as long as Terminal remained open I was good to go.
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#12482 - 10/17/10 05:24 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: artie505]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
If you don't want to wait for the time to expire, you can enter:

sudo -k

That doesn't require a password, and in fact can be run by users not ordinarily authorized to run sudo. It immediately revokes any temporary credentials, so a password will be requested on the next use of sudo.

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#12484 - 10/17/10 08:44 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: ganbustein]
spmcc123 Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Loc: Portland/Abu Dhabi
Well.... thanks for all the advice! I am hugely surprised that Google has sprung this on the world. I can do without Picassa and Chrome, but Google Earth was a real joy....

I went back and pasted the command in Terminal, typed the password, then checked to see if it was still there, following Hal's instructions. Seems to have gone. Then, next morning... it was BACK! Perhaps it is because I did not shut down (or correct permissions, run utilities and shut down??)

Seems to pop up only when I am on line.... Dianne, I think the link you provided was for an earlier version (2007) of the updater, since discontinued (might be wrong). The link I was following is a 2010 page.

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#12485 - 10/17/10 10:26 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: ganbustein]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Thanks for that, but let me be certain that I follow...

After I enter my password, sudo -k will extend the 5 minute limit on that password entry to "the Epoch" (whenever that may be), but only for that one command?

Code:
man:sudo:

-k          The -k (kill) option to sudo invalidates the user's
                   timestamp by setting the time on it to the Epoch.  The next
                   time sudo is run a password will be required.  This option
                   does not require a password and was added to allow a user
                   to revoke sudo permissions from a .logout file.
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#12486 - 10/17/10 10:42 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: spmcc123]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
> Then, next morning... it was BACK!

> Seems to pop up only when I am on line....

I'm only guessing, because I don't run any Google apps and can't experiment, but that-all sounds like you may have a box checked somewhere in your app's prefs that's telling it to check for updates and that it does so when you launch your browser. (Every 15-30 minutes just plain doesn't sound intended, though; have you contacted Google?)
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#12492 - 10/18/10 10:01 AM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: artie505]
ganbustein Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Originally Posted By: artie505
After I enter my password, sudo -k will extend the 5 minute limit on that password entry to "the Epoch" (whenever that may be), but only for that one command?

No, it's the other way around. The "epoch" for Unix is Jan 1, 1970 at 00:00:00 GMT. The 5-minute window during which the previous password entry is still valid becomes the 5 minutes starting then.

The practical effect is to make the old password entry expire immediately, even if its normal 5-minute lifetime still has time to run.

Here's an example session (with comments) that was run through in less than a minute:

ronk@Zebra:~(0)$ su -l admin # first, become an admin
Password:
admin@Zebra:~(0)$ sudo echo x # first use of sudo requires password
Password:
x
admin@Zebra:~(0)$ sudo echo x # second use does not
x
admin@Zebra:~(0)$ sudo -k # kill the timer
admin@Zebra:~(0)$ sudo echo x # so now I need a password again
Password:
x
admin@Zebra:~(0)$ sudo echo x # the second password is still good
x
admin@Zebra:~(0)$ logout # I'm done being an admin
ronk@Zebra:~(0)$


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#12501 - 10/18/10 09:55 PM Re: Google Update Intaller [Re: ganbustein]
artie505 Online


Registered: 08/04/09
Aaah... I see!

Many thanks for taking the time to post that clear example.
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