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Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
#10891 07/10/10 01:29 AM
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Right now I get this page:

http://wwwwz.websearch.verizon.net/search?qo=wwwhrsk.com&rn=10ogGMosjdeczX7

Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search?

Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
kevs #10892 07/10/10 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: kevs
Right now I get this page:

http://wwwwz.websearch.verizon.net/search?qo=wwwhrsk.com&rn=10ogGMosjdeczX7

Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search?


Sorry, kevs, but what, precisely, is your question?


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
artie505 #10900 07/10/10 04:19 PM
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thanks ARtie!
Ok, when I type in a bad url, Verizon takes me to their mediocre search field. I'm thinking, why now allow me to go to Google then?

Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
kevs #10901 07/10/10 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: kevs
Ok, when I type in a bad url, Verizon takes me to their mediocre search field. I'm thinking, why now allow me to go to Google then?
RoadRunner does the same to me. Why not type the URL (or better yet, the name of the site) in the Google search box? When I do that, Google usually comes up with the correct URL via a link.


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
jchuzi #10902 07/10/10 04:56 PM
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thanks J,
starting to get in that habit a bit more often. But any hope for this redirect just going to Google?

Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
kevs #10905 07/10/10 07:06 PM
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My guess is that Verizon would have to redirect you to Google. I don't think that there's any way for you to do it.


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
kevs #10907 07/10/10 09:48 PM
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I use Verizon DSL with Safari, and I'm always taken to Open DNS when I mistype.

Now, this is interesting... Open DNS resolved "finetubedmac" and inserted "Fine Tuned Mac" (where it appears in the screenshot), yet here it didn't resolve "fivetunedmac." (I'm not about to research permutations and combinations to find out why.)

Edit: I just took another look, and Verizon's "mediocre search field" is a Yahoo search field...not Google, but is it truly mediocre?

And, by the way, this is what Open DNS returned when I clicked on "Search" (for Fine Tuned Mac). (That looks pretty Googley to me.)

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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
artie505 #10908 07/10/10 10:09 PM
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You're taken to OpenDNS because you're using OpenDNS domain name servers, so kevs would have to switch from Verizon's (presumably default) DNS servers to OpenDNS in order to get the "Googley" search experience you describe.



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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
dkmarsh #10910 07/10/10 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: dkmarsh

You're taken to OpenDNS because you're using OpenDNS domain name servers, so kevs would have to switch from Verizon's (presumably default) DNS servers to OpenDNS in order to get the "Googley" search experience you describe.

Thanks, but would you please clarify?

I don't follow "you're using OpenDNS domain name servers."

Edit: Sorry... I just realized you probably mean my settings in SysPrefs > Network > Advanced > DNS:

DNS Servers:

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
8.8.8.8.
8.8.4.4

So kevs coud change to those and get to where I get?

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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
kevs #10911 07/10/10 11:17 PM
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When you type a bad URL, you are supposed to get a "domain not found" error. Some ISPs have started trying to make money by instead taking you to a search page; the ISP gets a small amount of money each time someone does a search.

You have no control over this; there's no way you can control what your ISP does when you type a bad domain. The only thing you can do is set your computer to use a different ISP's domain name servers, and you'll get whatever those domain name servers when you type a bad URL.

If you have set the OpenDNS name servers in your network settings, you'll get the OpenDNS search page if you type a bad URL.

Google also has domain name servers of their own, but as of right now if you use their domain name servers and type a bad URL you just get an error message.


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tacit #10913 07/10/10 11:20 PM
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Have you any feelings about why an Open DNS search results page looks so much like a Google page?


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
artie505 #10915 07/11/10 01:23 AM
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Actually, the OpenDNS results much more closely resemble the Yahoo! Search Results for the same query than they do the Google Search results.

Which isn't surprising; if you hover over any of the links above the search box (Images, Video, Audio, News), you'll see that they're links to Yahoo search strings. OpenDNS is simply piping Yahoo's Web search results into its own results page. (I don't have sufficient curiosity to pore over the page source to figure out where that happens.)

Edit: As for the stylistic resemblance to a Google results page, which is perhaps what you're really asking about, I can only surmise that Google has so defined Search on the web that anyone creating search-related stylesheets imitates Google simply to suggest legitimacy.

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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
dkmarsh #10916 07/11/10 04:39 AM
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> Edit: As for the stylistic resemblance to a Google results page, which is perhaps what you're really asking about, I can only surmise that Google has so defined Search on the web that anyone creating search-related stylesheets imitates Google simply to suggest legitimacy.

That's what I meant.

Interesting observation... Who'd'a thunk that Yahoo might need to emulate (plagiarize?) Google to gain legitimacy?


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
artie505 #10924 07/11/10 05:11 PM
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thanks Tacit, others for the definitive death knell on that.
I don't like Yahoo results.

I would just like to go back to my Google homepage with the message it was bad url. oh well.

Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
kevs #10930 07/11/10 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: kevs
I would just like to go back to my Google homepage with the message it was bad url. oh well.

While I was playing around with my DNS Server codes I somehow managed to get to a Safari "No such server" (or some-such, but not "Server not responding") page (only once, though) that included a Google search box.

Does anybody know how to replicate that?


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
artie505 #10953 07/13/10 06:11 PM
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Does anybody know how to replicate that?

I always thought safari would display that if there was a dns problem. (no dns servers or can't ping them?)


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Re: Anyway to get Google to come up on a bad search
Virtual1 #10958 07/13/10 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Virtual1
Does anybody know how to replicate that?

I always thought safari would display that if there was a dns problem. (no dns servers or can't ping them?)

Got me beat. confused

Maybe I just hit a momentary glitch somewhere?

Edit: When I delete my my DNS servers from SysPrefs > Network > Advanced > DNS a bad URL takes me too kev's Verizon/Yahoo page (if that's what you meant by "no dns servers").

Last edited by artie505; 07/13/10 11:33 PM.

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