 Improper Shutdown Message at Startup
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Hi, Gang:
Just began yesterday . . .
Every time I start up the iMac Desktop (2019) with Ventura, I receive a message that I had an "improper shutdown" last time. I have reset NVPRAM and SMC, but no fix happened. Whether I restart or shutdown (and reboot), the message pops up. I have not downloaded or installed any new software recently.
Any other ideas?
Many thanks,
MG2009
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Open the Console app and search the log files for "improper shutdown" and see if there are any clues there.
"All you've got to do is own up to your ignorance
honestly, and you'll find people who are eager to
fill your head with information"
--Walt Disney
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Hi, joemikeb:
I opened CONSOLE and took a peek. Nothing looks "odd" to me.
I'd send a screenshot, but do not know how to attach images to this thread. (The computer won't allow me to copy/paste the text from the LOG, either.)
Last edited by MG2009; 07/15/23 06:26 PM.
Many thanks,
MG2009
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To post a screenshot or other type of image... - Go to https://imgur.com/upload.
- Either drag your image into the window, choose (browse for) it, or paste your image or its URL.
- Click on Grab Link > Copy Link in the next screen to copy your image's URL to your clipboard.
- Create a link using FTM's "Insert Link" tags...5th icon from the right.
I just tried to copy from Console, and I couldn't do so in the top half of my screen, but I could in the bottom half.
The new Great Equalizer is the SEND button.
In Memory of Harv: Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
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Thanks, artie505 ! Here it is : https://imgur.com/a/zf2zCybDoes this tell us anything useful for fixing the issue? P.S. Yes, same situation as yours with copying from the Console Log.
Many thanks,
MG2009
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Thanks, artie505 ! Here it is : https://imgur.com/a/zf2zCybDoes this tell us anything useful for fixing the issue? P.S. Yes, same situation as yours with copying from the Console Log. It tells us that Imgur's servers are temporarily at capacity and cannot accept your post. But, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. - Launch Console and in the sidebar select Log Reports
- Then in the searchbar enter shutdown
- One-by-one select each of the logs found
- scroll to the top of the bottom pane
- then scan down the listing until you find the word "shutdown" (if it actually appears)
- Copy the text from ten lines preceding to ten lines following the line containing shutdown
- paste those lines in your reply to this post
You cannot copy the text in the top pane of the window, as it is a dynamic image containing links to the content of the bottom pane. The bottom pane displays an actual text file which is copyable (sp?) can be copied.
"All you've got to do is own up to your ignorance
honestly, and you'll find people who are eager to
fill your head with information"
--Walt Disney
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Thanks, artie505 ! Here it is : https://imgur.com/a/zf2zCybDoes this tell us anything useful for fixing the issue? P.S. Yes, same situation as yours with copying from the Console Log. Don't you see additional text underneath if you click on one of the lines shown in your screenshot?
The new Great Equalizer is the SEND button.
In Memory of Harv: Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
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New Image . . . https://imgur.com/a/5KuzgCe1. Launch Console and in the sidebar select Log Reports - DONE 2. Then in the searchbar enter shutdown - DONE (one found = shutdown_monitor.log) 3. One-by-one select each of the logs found - DONE 4. scroll to the top of the bottom pane (NO reference to "shutdown" anywhere therein, so #5, #6, #7 below are not applicable.) ........................................................................................................................................ 5. then scan down the listing until you find the word "shutdown" (if it actually appears) 6. Copy the text from ten lines preceding to ten lines following the line containing shutdown 7. paste those lines in your reply to this post FWIW: The "popup" only shows when I login from COLD START or RESTART. It does not appear while logging in and out of My Account, the Admin Account, or the Guest Account (i.e. all the accounts on this computer) - as long as the computer is not shutdown or restarted while in use.
Many thanks,
MG2009
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New Image . . . https://imgur.com/a/5KuzgCeFWIW: The "popup" only shows when I login from COLD START or RESTART. It does not appear while logging in and out of My Account, the Admin Account, or the Guest Account (i.e. all the accounts on this computer) - as long as the computer is not shutdown or restarted while in use. When I click on your Imgur link all I see is {"data":{"error":"Imgur is temporarily over capacity. Please try again later."},"success":false,"status":403} which is another issue altogether and should be in another topic. As to the original topic the popup you are seeing should only appear after a cold start or reboot. It indicates a drive was still open when the system shut down, which creates a not insignificant risk of damaging the file and volume structure on the offending drive/device. The questions are... - what drive or device is not dismounting properly
- why is it not dismounting as it should.
Since the log files are not easily yielding the data, my suggestion is to run Etrecheck and see if it finds any "breadcrumbs" that can be followed. Etrecheck is a free download, but the Pro version offers a more in-depth problem analysis.
"All you've got to do is own up to your ignorance
honestly, and you'll find people who are eager to
fill your head with information"
--Walt Disney
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When I click on your Imgur link all I see is {"data":{"error":"Imgur is temporarily over capacity. Please try again later."},"success":false,"status":403} You posted the same thing earlier, but I've had no trouble accessing MG2009's screenshot either then or right now. 
The new Great Equalizer is the SEND button.
In Memory of Harv: Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
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Hi, again:
Here's what I did . . .
1. unplugged the camera, EXHD 1, and EXHD 2 from the computer. No other devices are attached. The mouse and keyboard are Bluetooth.
2. Restarted the computer and the popup message returned (without any devices plugged in).
3. Plugged in EXHD 1 . It loaded. I could view its contents. Ejected it from the sidebar before restart. Then restarted the computer with the EXHD 1 plugged in. Popup message occurred.
4. Manually ejected EXHD 1 again from the sidebar. Unplugged EXHD 1.
Repeated Steps 3 and 4 with the EXHD 2 only. Exact same results.
Looks like neither external hard drive is the culprit.
The INTERNAL drives are Apple SSD and Apple SSD-Data (2) i.e. called a "preboot disk." Both have been displayed since the computer was purchased, although I do not recall seeing the (2) at the end of the Apple SSD-Data disk. Is that normal?
The popup does NOT appear to adversely affecting any operations of the computer; it just has been bloody annoying the past couple of days!
P.S. I, like artie505, have no problem viewing either of the Imgur links in the previous posts.
Many thanks,
MG2009
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When I click on your Imgur link all I see is {"data":{"error":"Imgur is temporarily over capacity. Please try again later."},"success":false,"status":403} You posted the same thing earlier, but I've had no trouble accessing MG2009's screenshot either then or right now. I was confused too and made an ass out of myself by ASS-U-MI-ng it was the result of a posting error to Imgur. After seeing your message I tried disabling content blockers on the Imgur site with no results. Then I remembered I had activated my VPN while researching a previous question. I deactivated the VPN and vioilá the content appeared. That said and to get back to MG2009's issue... - With the shutdown Monitor log selected click here and drag the bottom pane boundary higher until hopefully you can see the entire Shutdown Monitor Log text
- Click anywhere in that text and press ⌘A to select the entire text
- Select that text and press ⌘C to copy it to the clip board.
- Reply to this post on FineTunedMac and press ⌘V to paste the text into your reply
General Question: Does anyone else see the Shutdown monitor log in your Log Reports? I am not, but then I am running Sonoma.
"All you've got to do is own up to your ignorance
honestly, and you'll find people who are eager to
fill your head with information"
--Walt Disney
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Here's the data.
I have attached a snippet as the LOG is the same as this sample . . . just repeats 200+ times with only the numbers in the [ ] changing.
Sampling completed, generating report...
[1939]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
[129]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
[702]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
diskarbitrationd [132]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.DriverKit-IOUserDockC [380]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
Saved shutdown report
Sampling completed, generating report...
[674]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
[436]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
securityd [153]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.DriverKit-IOUserDockC [342]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
Sampling completed, generating report...
[603]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
. . . etc.
Many thanks,
MG2009
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I've got that log (macOS 13.4.1 (c ): Sampling completed, generating report...
[773]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
securityd [132]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.DriverKit-IOUserDockC [480]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.AppleUserHIDDrivers [481]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
ccpd [1084]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
ccpd [1123]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
captmoncnabc [1124]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
Saved shutdown report
Sampling completed, generating report...
[841]: Unable to spawn ddt: 3 (No such process)
securityd [132]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.DriverKit-IOUserDockC [388]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.AppleUserHIDDrivers [389]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
ccpd [790]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
ccpd [801]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
captmoncnabc [804]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
Saved shutdown report
Sampling completed, generating report...
securityd [132]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.DriverKit-IOUserDockC [386]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
com.apple.AppleUserHIDDrivers [387]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
ccpd [798]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
ccpd [808]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
captmoncnabc [809]: Unable to spawn ddt: 2 (No such file or directory)
Saved shutdown report
Ad infinitum This is hysterical! After NEVER having worked for me, Text Replacements has begun working, which I discovered when © appeared, thus the above (c ). (Note the space after the c.) Thanks Apple for the security updates which enabled me to discover this. I've got no idea when the change occurred, but I remember having tried not all that long ago.
The new Great Equalizer is the SEND button.
In Memory of Harv: Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
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Hmmm... I now suspect that Text Replacements has always worked, but since I never typed anything - space or character - in my tests after my entry, it never activated.
The new Great Equalizer is the SEND button.
In Memory of Harv: Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
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Since you and Artie are seeing essentially identical logs it would appear to be normal for Ventura on Intel Macs and likely unrelated to MG2009’s presenting issue. But, I still believe there are some bread crumbs buried in the logs — the trick is finding them. Unfortunately the way search works in Console may not help. I would still give Extrecheck a try but another possibility would be Arnie’s favorite utility FindAnyFile. A search for any file with an extension of .log, including system and invisible files containing the word “shutdown” might turn up the pertinent log.
"All you've got to do is own up to your ignorance
honestly, and you'll find people who are eager to
fill your head with information"
--Walt Disney
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Just wondering . . . Is there any chance that downloading and reinstalling Ventura would fix the issue? Thoughts?
Many thanks,
MG2009
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I used FindAnyFile : Search ALL DISKS / NAME / CONTAINS / SHUTDOWN . . . with 139 matches. https://imgur.com/a/43db8ilhttps://imgur.com/a/HiGGBSRThe vast majority of entries were well over a week ago. The images on Imgur show items since the problem arose this past week. I am not seeing anything scary in there. (??) Note: Note sure why the "Adult Warning" appears for the second link - unless it's the near collision video below on the same page or the kittens nursing (!!!!).
Last edited by MG2009; 07/17/23 06:46 PM. Reason: "Warning"
Many thanks,
MG2009
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Before you do anything that drastic, my Idiots Guide to Computing says to launch OnyX, click on the maintenance tab/run tasks.
It fixed a similar problem I had with Monterey.
iMac (19,1, 3.1 GHz i5, 12.7.4, 40 Gb RAM); MacBook Air (1.8 Ghz, 8 Gb RAM, 10.14.6, 256 Gb SSD) Vodafone router and Devolo Wi-Fi Extender, Canon TS8351 printer/scanner.
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THAT WORKED, freelance.
I shut down the computer and rebooted . . . and the popup did not appear. Hopefully that will be a permanent fix to the issue.
P.S. I have added a codicil to My Will naming you as a beneficiary. (Actually, I haven't, but the sentiment is there. Thanks.)
Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, too.
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I have added a codicil to My Will naming you as a beneficiary. I want to know who you are and where you live. 
iMac (19,1, 3.1 GHz i5, 12.7.4, 40 Gb RAM); MacBook Air (1.8 Ghz, 8 Gb RAM, 10.14.6, 256 Gb SSD) Vodafone router and Devolo Wi-Fi Extender, Canon TS8351 printer/scanner.
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I used FindAnyFile : Search ALL DISKS / NAME / CONTAINS / SHUTDOWN . . . with 139 matches. https://imgur.com/a/43db8ilhttps://imgur.com/a/HiGGBSRThe vast majority of entries were well over a week ago. The images on Imgur show items since the problem arose this past week. I am not seeing anything scary in there. (??) OnyX may have deleted the log files, but if any of them still exist on your computer, you might try opening one and see if the contents reveal any information on the cause of the error.
"All you've got to do is own up to your ignorance
honestly, and you'll find people who are eager to
fill your head with information"
--Walt Disney
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Actually, prior to writing the OP here, I dug around the internet. Although others have had the same pop-up message, they had no cause or (actual) solution to offer.
Therefore, I did not even look into the "cause" further since folks far more "in the know" than I weren't able to discern it. Just happy to have the solution provided by freelance and Onyx. (The problem has not re-surfaced.)
Many thanks,
MG2009
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