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Re: Permissions for Trash
joemikeb #60871 02/13/22 02:49 PM
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Your This is my solution to typing in the password every time link goes to the same Apple support document as your system Integrity protection link, so it's not surprising that Rita doesn't see a solution. wink



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Re: Permissions for Trash
joemikeb #60874 02/13/22 06:17 PM
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Look closer. I switched to a Magic Keyboard with Touch ID so all I have to do is touch the right key and voilá my password is entered automatically. [/quote] I went back to the link and found I had to click on more links to see that. So, now I see that. Thanks.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
dkmarsh #60875 02/13/22 06:19 PM
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I went back to the link and found more links, and I finally found it. Thanks, DK.

Originally Posted by dkmarsh
Your This is my solution to typing in the password every time link goes to the same Apple support document as your system Integrity protection link, so it's not surprising that Rita doesn't see a solution. wink


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60876 02/13/22 06:29 PM
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OK, before we go any further, it just occurred to me that if Get Info on your home folder shows you the equivalent of this, you shouldn't be able to write to any file in it, not just trash, but you haven't reported any other problems.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60877 02/13/22 06:37 PM
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I just wanted to be able to trash stuff without using my password. No other problems other than camera which I give up on. Supposedly having admin permission to read/write other than just read gives me that option.


Originally Posted by artie505
OK, before we go any further, it just occurred to me that if Get Info on your home folder shows you the equivalent of this, you shouldn't be able to write to any file in it, not just trash, but you haven't reported any other problems.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60878 02/13/22 06:44 PM
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Please post a pic equivalent to the one I just posted.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60879 02/13/22 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by artie505
Please post a pic equivalent to the one I just posted.
Read/Write


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60880 02/13/22 08:15 PM
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You didn't give me your home folder. There should be a folder with your name on it under "Users." I need to see that one.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60882 02/14/22 12:14 AM
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OK found it. I forgot how to blur our my name before I send the screenshot. It does say read & write though. Surprised me.

Originally Posted by artie505
You didn't give me your home folder. There should be a folder with your name on it under "Users." I need to see that one.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60883 02/14/22 12:28 AM
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Does this look safe to do? Permissions
Originally Posted by artie505
You didn't give me your home folder. There should be a folder with your name on it under "Users." I need to see that one.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60885 02/14/22 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
OK found it. I forgot how to blur our my name before I send the screenshot. It does say read & write though. Surprised me.
Open the screenshot in Preview, select your name, and hit "delete." (Your selecting your name should surround it with blue dots.)

Once I see that screenshot I can maybe figure out what your problem is, because at this point, I'm not sure I've got the slightest idea.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60886 02/14/22 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
Does this look safe to do? Permissions
Originally Posted by artie505
You didn't give me your home folder. There should be a folder with your name on it under "Users." I need to see that one.
That post is from 2012, so I'm not sure if it's still pertinent if it ever was at all.

Let's get past that screenshot first.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60893 02/15/22 12:20 AM
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I didn't realize Terminal commands changed as time goes on. I guess it makes sense since lots of other stuff changes in Macs.

Originally Posted by artie505
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Does this look safe to do? Permissions
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You didn't give me your home folder. There should be a folder with your name on it under "Users." I need to see that one.
That post is from 2012, so I'm not sure if it's still pertinent if it ever was at all.

Let's get past that screenshot first.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60895 02/15/22 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
I didn't realize Terminal commands changed as time goes on. I guess it makes sense since lots of other stuff changes in Macs.
I don't think the basic nature of the commands themselves change, but the files they target and/or their locations may.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60896 02/15/22 05:47 AM
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OK. I know I've been warned about using terminal willy nilly, so I move cautiously when I see a terminal command online. I usually ask here before I proceed.

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Originally Posted by plantsower
I didn't realize Terminal commands changed as time goes on. I guess it makes sense since lots of other stuff changes in Macs.
I don't think the basic nature of the commands themselves change, but the files they target and/or their locations may.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60898 02/15/22 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
OK. I know I've been warned about using terminal willy nilly, so I move cautiously when I see a terminal command online. I usually ask here before I proceed.

Originally Posted by artie505
Originally Posted by plantsower
I didn't realize Terminal commands changed as time goes on. I guess it makes sense since lots of other stuff changes in Macs.
I don't think the basic nature of the commands themselves change, but the files they target and/or their locations may.

I have an old friend who for the past thirty or so years has earned his living as a Unix system administrator for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He does not use a word processor choosing to code his documents directly in PDF. His advice has always been to avoid using the Unix command line unless and until you are ready to retire and let your successor clean up the mess you are about to make.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
joemikeb #60907 02/15/22 06:50 PM
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LOL! Wow!
Originally Posted by joemikeb
Originally Posted by plantsower
OK. I know I've been warned about using terminal willy nilly, so I move cautiously when I see a terminal command online. I usually ask here before I proceed.

Originally Posted by artie505
Originally Posted by plantsower
I didn't realize Terminal commands changed as time goes on. I guess it makes sense since lots of other stuff changes in Macs.
I don't think the basic nature of the commands themselves change, but the files they target and/or their locations may.

I have an old friend who for the past thirty or so years has earned his living as a Unix system administrator for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He does not use a word processor choosing to code his documents directly in PDF. His advice has always been to avoid using the Unix command line unless and until you are ready to retire and let your successor clean up the mess you are about to make.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60913 02/18/22 11:40 AM
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Back in the real world after having whittled a saga down to a sentence.

Originally Posted by plantsower
OK found [my home folder]. .... It does say read & write though. Surprised me.
After reading that, I went back to your original post and realized that it was misinterpreted...that we've been on a wild goose chase.

Those with looong memories may remember that your problem is one that was reported with some regularity in the early days of OS X, and that its solution is, if my memory serves me, Method 1 in this doc (to which you've previously linked). (Method 2, which is incorrect, is the one that didn't work in your original post.)

Method 1
[Navigate to /Apps/Utilities/Terminal]
Type the following command replacing “your_user_name” with your user name [as it appears in Finder...case sensitive/no underscores].
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sudo chown your_user_name ~/.Trash
You will need to enter your password and press Enter.
It won’t show any characters when you type.
If you do not have a password then set one first.

If you are presented with the following error: “No such file or folder” then do the following:
Type the following command:
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mkdir ~/.Trash

Unless I'm mistaken, your problem is not permissions related, rather it's that you've lost ownership of your trash folder, and running that command should fix it.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60919 02/18/22 06:13 PM
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Thanks, Artie. Busy today, but will try later. By user name in Finder, I see the home folder in the Finder sidebar with my first and last name without a space, lower case. I'm guessing that's what you're talking about?


Originally Posted by artie505
Back in the real world after having whittled a saga down to a sentence.

Originally Posted by plantsower
OK found [my home folder]. .... It does say read & write though. Surprised me.
After reading that, I went back to your original post and realized that it was misinterpreted...that we've been on a wild goose chase.

Those with looong memories may remember that your problem is one that was reported with some regularity in the early days of OS X, and that its solution is, if my memory serves me, Method 1 in this doc (to which you've previously linked). (Method 2, which is incorrect, is the one that didn't work in your original post.)

Method 1
[Navigate to /Apps/Utilities/Terminal]
Type the following command replacing “your_user_name” with your user name [as it appears in Finder...case sensitive/no underscores].
Code
sudo chown your_user_name ~/.Trash
You will need to enter your password and press Enter.
It won’t show any characters when you type.
If you do not have a password then set one first.

If you are presented with the following error: “No such file or folder” then do the following:
Type the following command:
Code
mkdir ~/.Trash

Unless I'm mistaken, your problem is not permissions related, rather it's that you've lost ownership of your trash folder, and running that command should fix it.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60925 02/18/22 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
By user name in Finder, I see the home folder in the Finder sidebar with my first and last name without a space, lower case. I'm guessing that's what you're talking about?
Whatever it says next to the little house.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60927 02/19/22 01:39 AM
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OK, thanks.


Originally Posted by artie505
Originally Posted by plantsower
By user name in Finder, I see the home folder in the Finder sidebar with my first and last name without a space, lower case. I'm guessing that's what you're talking about?
Whatever it says next to the little house.


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60931 02/19/22 06:29 PM
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Be sure to get the spaces right...
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sudo chown your_user_name ~/.Trash
sudo/chown...chown/your...name/~


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60932 02/19/22 07:37 PM
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OK. Thanks for that. I still can't get to it because of what's going on here, but hopefully soon. Thanks, Artie.

Originally Posted by artie505
Be sure to get the spaces right...
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sudo chown your_user_name ~/.Trash
sudo/chown...chown/your...name/~


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Re: Permissions for Trash
artie505 #60975 02/26/22 09:46 PM
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If it does something I don't like, can I reverse it in Terminal? Being careful like Joe says.

Originally Posted by artie505
Be sure to get the spaces right...
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sudo chown your_user_name ~/.Trash
sudo/chown...chown/your...name/~


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Re: Permissions for Trash
plantsower #60976 02/26/22 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by plantsower
If it does something I don't like, can I reverse it in Terminal? Being careful like Joe says.
I'm not authoritative about Terminal, but I don't see how this command can do anything you don't like.

The "chown" command simply changes the ownership of the targeted file, so it will either restore your lost ownership or just be a redundant affirmation of your existing ownership.


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