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Re: The thread formerly known as: Maybe 45 ...
joemikeb #53528 03/02/20 06:04 AM
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In a completely different vein, I wonder if we can count on the Chinese to try to sabotage Trump's campaign in favor of a more domestic minded and likely internationally naive Democrat?

Maybe they'll hack the Russians and find out what they've got on Trump.

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artie505 #53529 03/02/20 07:23 AM
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He's really stuck his neck out this time, because neither a captive Senate nor a captive Justice Department can make the coronavirus go away if it spreads as scientists in the wild expect it to.
He'll try to label everything that doesn't come from Pence as false news, but the day his base realizes that it's dying of terminal Democratic hoax will be a bad one for him.
Tough question: Considering the possible consequences of things going in either direction, do we want him to be right or wrong?

The potential upside — in probably the most perverse way possible — is that those who believe that Covid-19 is a "Democratic hoax" will take no counteractive measures to prevent infection, thereby potentially removing them from the electoral process. So sad. crazy Bigly. tongue

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grelber #53530 03/02/20 08:14 AM
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Deleted, because it didn't make anywhere near as much sense when I reread it as it did when I wrote it.

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artie505 #53531 03/02/20 01:42 PM
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Deleted, because it didn't make anywhere near as much sense when I reread it as it did when I wrote it.

Au contraire.

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grelber #53533 03/02/20 04:19 PM
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Deleted, because it didn't make anywhere near as much sense when I reread it as it did when I wrote it.

Au contraire.

OK, then, but specific this time...

In the context of Trump's "hoax" stance and its potential effect on the campaign, we've got a win-lose, lose-win situation.

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grelber #53612 03/09/20 07:34 AM
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Remember this?

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Trump Has a Problem as the Coronavirus Threatens the US: His Credibility

Even his allies worry that President Trump has undermined his ability to appear presidential in a moment of national emergency.

Wouldn't it be sumpin if tiny little COVID-19 brought down PREZ-45 without even threatening his own immune system?!

And now ...

For Trump, Coronavirus Proves to Be an Enemy He Can’t Tweet Away

A president who is at his strongest politically when he has a human target to attack has found it harder to confront a growing outbreak that has rattled the country.

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grelber #53631 03/10/20 11:41 PM
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I just watched a report that the CDC had prepared a number of recommendations to protect American lives. One of them was that older people (high risk of death if they catch the COVID 19 virus) should avoid air travel. Trump blocked the release of that recommendation. It has only become known because of a whistleblower.

The U.S. has a president who is prepared to roll the dice on citizens' lives in order to protect his political goals.


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ryck #53632 03/11/20 12:40 AM
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A recommendation that older people avoid cruises was ultimately released, but not before administration officials argued against its release because it would hurt Florida economically.

This administration is totally lacking morals and scruples.

The title "Good King Wenceslas" has always made me pause for a moment and wonder what living during the reign of a bad king might be like. I'm sorry to say that I'm learning. frown mad

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This administration is totally lacking morals and scruples.

Donald Trump has suggested a payroll tax cut to help businesses through the impact of the COVID 19 pandemic. He didn't bother to mention that the money would come from cuts to social security and healthcare. Neither did he mention that a prime benefactor would be the hotel industry. Hotels? That says it all about lacking morals or scruples.


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ryck #53640 03/12/20 11:39 PM
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Republicans have reached the bottom of the barrel and are now starting to dig. They want to include abortion restrictions in the emergency bill now being debated, not to mention being against paid sick leave. A pox on all of them! (Or, may they become ill with COVID19. BTW, Trump has been exposed to the virus.)
Coronavirus Live Updates: Talks on a Sweeping Aid Package Stumble


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BTW, Trump has been exposed to the virus.

I have my fingers crossed.

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grelber #53642 03/13/20 08:53 AM
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It’s a MAGA Microbe Meltdown

Trump utterly fails to rise to his first real crisis...
So what’s going on? What we’re seeing here is a meltdown — not just a meltdown of the markets, but a meltdown of Trump’s mind. When bad things happen, there are only three things he knows how to do: insist that things are great and his policies are perfect, cut taxes, and throw money at his cronies.
Now he’s faced with a crisis where none of these standbys will work, where he actually needs to cooperate with Nancy Pelosi to avoid catastrophe. What we saw in [March 11's] speech was that he’s completely incapable of rising to the occasion. We needed to see a leader; what we saw was an incompetent, delusional blowhard.


Amen.

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grelber #53644 03/13/20 02:06 PM
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And, just as telling.....

"His big idea for the economy is a complete payroll tax holiday. According to Bloomberg News, he told Republican senators that he wanted the holiday to extend “through the November election so that taxes don’t go back up before voters decide whether to return him to office.” That is, he apparently said the quiet part out loud."


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Trump Oversold a Google Site to Fight Coronavirus

After Jared Kushner liked the idea, President Trump inflated the concept. The disconnect is the latest example of the president exaggerating or making wholly inaccurate statements about his administration’s response.

Big surprise. So sad. Bigly.


Trump Tests Negative for Coronavirus, His Doctor Says

Rats! Doubly so sad. Really bigly.

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grelber #53691 03/16/20 07:10 PM
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Looks like Trump has got to send out a second round of autographed stock charts. (Trump signs chart showing stock market rally...)

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artie505 #53699 03/17/20 04:09 PM
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Looks like Trump has got to send out a second round of autographed stock charts.

Just as his view of COVID 19 has changed so dramatically. In this morning's news conference he's moved from his original statement "It'll all go away in April with the warm weather" to "I've always known this was a pandemic."

Oh, I see. You knew all along but you thought it best to waste precious time in responding.


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ryck #53700 03/17/20 04:18 PM
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He thought the "D" stood for Democrats.

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Trump Now Claims He Always Knew the Coronavirus Would Be a Pandemic

The president tried to rewrite his history with advising Americans about the coronavirus. His own words prove him wrong.

Demented shmuck.

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grelber #53712 03/18/20 07:25 PM
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Everything comes down to a President who has no idea how to act in an emergency. Citizens should be happy that this isn't some nation invading the country. By now they'd be saluting a different flag.


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ryck #53728 03/19/20 11:43 PM
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When asked why the Whitehouse wasn't prepared, Trump responded: "We were prepared. The only thing we weren't prepared for was the media."

Would some infected person please sneeze on that jerk.


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ryck #53729 03/20/20 12:04 AM
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Would some infected person please sneeze on that jerk.

Nowhere severe enough. Go with Ebola. Gift an infected monkey from DRC.

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Tremendously harsh! shocked grin


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This thread has now officially doubled back on its original title! shocked grin laugh

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This thread has now officially doubled back on its original title! shocked grin laugh

If I can flip the sails to a new tack…..

The most aggravating thing to me is that most problems facing the U.S. today, vis-a-vis the COVID 19 crisis, are due to gross mismanagement on the part of the President. The virus didn’t sneak into the country. Everyone knew it was coming.

Instead of anticipatory action (Management 101) the President launched into a bizarre campaign of demonizing China, suggesting the virus was a hoax perpetrated by the Democrats and making bizarre predictions like “by April it will go away with the warm weather”, et cetera. Instead of showing concern for the American people, Trump politicized it in whatever manner he thought it would help him. Even now, when Governors are looking to the President for central leadership in getting the supplies they need, Trump's flippant response is: "the federal government isn't a shipping clerk".

I think the handing of the COVID 19 invasion explains why the President had so many business failures - he is only capable of mismanagement.

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Check out "Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded" in the COVID-19 forum.

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