Calendar not alerting anymore

My calendar isn't giving me any alerts anymore x 2 to 3 days. I went into my calendar prefs and also notifications and everything is fine. I even quit calendar in activity monitor per a suggestion online. I also rebooted my Mac. I am finding that if I put in a new test alert, it works but the older ones aren't showing up. I may have to re-enter everything.

For lack of a better idea, toggle the Alerts preferences off and on.

Thanks, Jon. I did that today but it didn't work either.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

For lack of a better idea, toggle the Alerts preferences off and on.

Check your settings in System Preferences > Notifications > Calendar. Something may have changed?

Hi Jon: Yes, that's the first thing I did. Nothing changed. It's a mystery. I went ahead and re-entered everything hoping it would give me an alert, but it didn't. I went through Calendar prefs and Notifications with Apple. Everything is correctly checked. Now I'm back to square one. I have a lot of alerts, including birthdays, so this is really putting me in a pickle.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Check your settings in System Preferences > Notifications > Calendar. Something may have changed?

Originally Posted by plantsower

Hi Jon: Yes, that's the first thing I did. Nothing changed. It's a mystery. I went ahead and re-entered everything hoping it would give me an alert, but it didn't. I went through Calendar prefs and Notifications with Apple. Everything is correctly checked. Now I'm back to square one. I have a lot of alerts, including birthdays, so this is really putting me in a pickle.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Check your settings in System Preferences > Notifications > Calendar. Something may have changed?

ADDENDUM I decided I may need to d/l another calendar or planner. I looked on the App Store for free ones. They don't all say which versions they will support. I know when looking at apps in the past they always said which versions were supported. I'm not sure why they don't do that now unless I completely missed it. I'm hoping for one that supports Catalina though that may be a pipe dream.

Would you consider upgrading the OS? According to MacTracker, you MBPro can go up to Monterey. You are also using an old version of Safari and also of Firefox.

I can't say that this will solve your problem but it might be a good idea.

Normally, I don't upgrade unless I have to. But since I am considering purchasing an M2 MacBook Pro, guess it doesn't make sense not to this time. I thought about it. But the point is that the supported versions are not being mentioned for the most part. Thanks, John.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Would you consider upgrading the OS? According to MacTracker, you MBPro can go up to Monterey. You are also using an old version of Safari and also of Firefox.

I can't say that this will solve your problem but it might be a good idea.

Originally Posted by plantsower

ADDENDUM I decided I may need to d/l another calendar or planner. I looked on the App Store for free ones. They don't all say which versions they will support. I know when looking at apps in the past they always said which versions were supported. I'm not sure why they don't do that now unless I completely missed it. I'm hoping for one that supports Catalina though that may be a pipe dream.

Be aware that most of those FREE planners come with hooks that make them anything but free in the long run.

Originally Posted by plantsower

Normally, I don't upgrade unless I have to. But since I am considering purchasing an M2 MacBook Pro, guess it doesn't make sense not to this time. I thought about it. But the point is that the supported versions are not being mentioned for the most part. Thanks, John.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Would you consider upgrading the OS? According to MacTracker, you MBPro can go up to Monterey. You are also using an old version of Safari and also of Firefox.

I can't say that this will solve your problem but it might be a good idea.

I looked up updates on my system prefs and it doesn't give any but extension updates. I get a message to update my OS every now and then but I always refuse. I don't know where to go on my Mac to find that option. I've read where people are having problems updating from Catalina to Big Sur and may have to go straight to Monterey. Whatever, I need to know where to look on my Mac. Thanks.

Ok, thanks for the warning.

Originally Posted by joemikeb

Originally Posted by plantsower

ADDENDUM I decided I may need to d/l another calendar or planner. I looked on the App Store for free ones. They don't all say which versions they will support. I know when looking at apps in the past they always said which versions were supported. I'm not sure why they don't do that now unless I completely missed it. I'm hoping for one that supports Catalina though that may be a pipe dream.

Be aware that most of those FREE planners come with hooks that make them anything but free in the long run.

I had already upgraded Firefox but didn't think to update it in my profile. I don't see a way to upgrade Safari Tech Preview for Catalina. I also don't see where I can update my OS. Usually it has an update link in my Mac but I don't see one.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Would you consider upgrading the OS? According to MacTracker, you MBPro can go up to Monterey. You are also using an old version of Safari and also of Firefox.

I can't say that this will solve your problem but it might be a good idea.

Originally Posted by plantsower

I had already upgraded Firefox but didn't think to update it in my profile. I don't see a way to upgrade Safari Tech Preview for Catalina. I also don't see where I can update my OS. Usually it has an update link in my Mac but I don't see one.

Addendum: I looked online via Apple Support and found out how to do it. I am now downloading Monterey. It's going to take all night as I don't have a very speedy internet.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Would you consider upgrading the OS? According to MacTracker, you MBPro can go up to Monterey. You are also using an old version of Safari and also of Firefox.

I can't say that this will solve your problem but it might be a good idea.

Originally Posted by plantsower

I don't see a way to upgrade Safari Tech Preview for Catalina. I also don't see where I can update my OS. Usually it has an update link in my Mac but I don't see one.

I think STP updates only going forward, not backwards, and it's already way past Catalina. (Just to confirm, cruise your STP menu bar to see if there's an update link.)

Doesn't Software Update offer you an OS upgrade?

Where did you find the d/l?

Originally Posted by artie505

[quote=plantsower]I don't see a way to upgrade Safari Tech Preview for Catalina. I also don't see where I can update my OS. Usually it has an update link in my Mac but I don't see one.

I think STP updates only going forward, not backwards, and it's already way past Catalina. (Just to confirm, cruise your STP menu bar to see if there's an update link.) There is nothing on my SFP menu bar regarding updates. I went to the website and they have it for Monterey and Ventura. I am updating to Monterey now and when it's done (tomorrow) I will update Safari Tech.
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Doesn't Software Update offer you an OS upgrade?

When I went to Sys Pref drop down box there was only extension updates offered. I went to sys prefs, General - and found where I could update my OS. I'm only updating because I want my calendar to work and because I may be getting a new Mac soon with Ventura anyway.[/color] Sorry about the crazy way the colors turned out. I tried 3 times and gave up.

Originally Posted by plantsower

I looked up updates on my system prefs and it doesn't give any but extension updates.

That just registered.

System Prefs doesn't deal with extensions. They're the App Store's business.

I'd love to see a screenshot of what you saw.

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

I looked up updates on my system prefs and it doesn't give any but extension updates.

That just registered.

System Prefs doesn't deal with extensions. They're the App Store's business. You're right. I just looked at the drop down box again. Now it says 1 update next to system prefs but clicking on it gets me nowhere. I think it's because I'm d/ling Monterey at the moment.

Then down the drop-down list is the App Store with 4 updates at the moment.

I'd love to see a screenshot of what you saw.

So, my mistake. No screen shot necessary.

I went to install Monterey and it said I didn't have enough room on my SSD. I did have enough room on my Catalina Disk which I think is my thumb Drive that I use for SuperDuper which I named Catalina. I thought when we upgraded we just incorporated the new OS into our old one so it didn't take that much space. So, I guess I don't do it. Because if I do, I will have to constantly use my SD to use Monterey, right? Argh!

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

I looked up updates on my system prefs and it doesn't give any but extension updates.

That just registered.

System Prefs doesn't deal with extensions. They're the App Store's business.

I'd love to see a screenshot of what you saw.

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went to install Monterey and it said I didn't have enough room on my SSD. I did have enough room on my Catalina Disk which I think is my thumb Drive that I use for SuperDuper which I named Catalina. I thought when we upgraded we just incorporated the new OS into our old one so it didn't take that much space. So, I guess I don't do it. Because if I do, I will have to constantly use my SD to use Monterey, right? Argh!

I dunno... That doesn't sound right, but maybe it is.

Please do a Get Info (command-I) on the icon for your internal drive on your desktop and post it.

Rita:

This is a shotgun approach, but you could try running First Aid with Disk Utility. At least, that's what DU calls it in Big Sur. I don't remember if the name was the same in Catalina.

This morning I got another banner asking to upgrade. I accepted it and now it's downloading again. Before that I looked on disk utility and I seemed to have plenty of space. If that doesn't work, I will send you a screen shot.

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went to install Monterey and it said I didn't have enough room on my SSD. I did have enough room on my Catalina Disk which I think is my thumb Drive that I use for SuperDuper which I named Catalina. I thought when we upgraded we just incorporated the new OS into our old one so it didn't take that much space. So, I guess I don't do it. Because if I do, I will have to constantly use my SD to use Monterey, right? Argh!

I dunno... That doesn't sound right, but maybe it is.

Please do a Get Info (command-I) on the icon for your internal drive on your desktop and post it.

It is still called First Aid. I will try that if necessary. Once again, it is downloading Monterey. I would think it odd that it offered to download it if I didn't have room, but then again I don't know how intuitive those banners are that offer to upgrade via Apple banners.

Originally Posted by jchuzi

Rita:

This is a shotgun approach, but you could try running First Aid with Disk Utility. At least, that's what DU calls it in Big Sur. I don't remember if the name was the same in Catalina.

Here's what happened twice. While d/l ing Monterey it got interrupted. But then I saw the Monterey icon on the dock. I clicked on it and it said to install. I tried that each time and that's when I got the message that I didn't have enough room. I knew it wasn't ready to install because it had only half downloaded. When my Mac shut down and came back up, I couldn't find the window that showed it was still downloading, just the icon on the dock. When I clicked on the software update, nothing happened like last time when it was actually downloading.

SSD info

Monterey message

I don't know what to go from here as the software update button isn't working. Is there a way to see if it's downloading in the background?

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went to install Monterey and it said I didn't have enough room on my SSD. I did have enough room on my Catalina Disk which I think is my thumb Drive that I use for SuperDuper which I named Catalina. I thought when we upgraded we just incorporated the new OS into our old one so it didn't take that much space. So, I guess I don't do it. Because if I do, I will have to constantly use my SD to use Monterey, right? Argh!

I dunno... That doesn't sound right, but maybe it is.

Please do a Get Info (command-I) on the icon for your internal drive on your desktop and post it.

I went back into the apple logo and about then software updates. I clicked on it and Monterey started downloading again but this time it looked like it had been partially downloaded already and within 60 seconds said I had a two day wait for it to finish and now it says 2 hours. I think that's normal as it never gets it right. Hopefully, things will work out this time as long as my Mac doesn't suddenly close down like it did a few hours ago for no apparent reason.

Originally Posted by plantsower

This morning I got another banner asking to upgrade. I accepted it and now it's downloading again. Before that I looked on disk utility and I seemed to have plenty of space. If that doesn't work, I will send you a screen shot.

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went to install Monterey and it said I didn't have enough room on my SSD. I did have enough room on my Catalina Disk which I think is my thumb Drive that I use for SuperDuper which I named Catalina. I thought when we upgraded we just incorporated the new OS into our old one so it didn't take that much space. So, I guess I don't do it. Because if I do, I will have to constantly use my SD to use Monterey, right? Argh!

I dunno... That doesn't sound right, but maybe it is.

Please do a Get Info (command-I) on the icon for your internal drive on your desktop and post it.

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went back into the apple logo and about then software updates. I clicked on it and Monterey started downloading again but this time it looked like it had been partially downloaded already and within 60 seconds said I had a two day wait for it to finish and now it says 2 hours. I think that's normal as it never gets it right. Hopefully, things will work out this time as long as my Mac doesn't suddenly close down like it did a few hours ago for no apparent reason.

Those time estimates are a joke! Last night I was updating my AppleTV (the device, not the app) and the time estimate went from 3 minutes to 58 minutes and then 3+ hours and the entire process completed in a little moree than 7 minutes with a normal install.

Yes I'm always amazed at the inaccuracy of it. I wonder if they can't get it right, why put a time on it at all? I now have to wait about 55 more minutes for Monterey to download. From the way it's been going, that seems about right for now.

Originally Posted by joemikeb

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went back into the apple logo and about then software updates. I clicked on it and Monterey started downloading again but this time it looked like it had been partially downloaded already and within 60 seconds said I had a two day wait for it to finish and now it says 2 hours. I think that's normal as it never gets it right. Hopefully, things will work out this time as long as my Mac doesn't suddenly close down like it did a few hours ago for no apparent reason.

Those time estimates are a joke! Last night I was updating my AppleTV (the device, not the app) and the time estimate went from 3 minutes to 58 minutes and then 3+ hours and the entire process completed in a little moree than 7 minutes with a normal install.

I finished downloading Monterey. When trying to install I keep getting the message I don't have enough space on my SSD. And now Safari Tech won't open. Luckily Firefox will. This is a pic of my Disk Utility I don't know why so many things are on there, but I would like to get rid of some if possible. Not sure why Catalina is on there twice. I named my thumb drive Catalina which will be changed to Monterey if I ever get it installed. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by joemikeb

Originally Posted by plantsower

I went back into the apple logo and about then software updates. I clicked on it and Monterey started downloading again but this time it looked like it had been partially downloaded already and within 60 seconds said I had a two day wait for it to finish and now it says 2 hours. I think that's normal as it never gets it right. Hopefully, things will work out this time as long as my Mac doesn't suddenly close down like it did a few hours ago for no apparent reason.

Those time estimates are a joke! Last night I was updating my AppleTV (the device, not the app) and the time estimate went from 3 minutes to 58 minutes and then 3+ hours and the entire process completed in a little moree than 7 minutes with a normal install.

Originally Posted by plantsower

I had already upgraded Firefox but didn't think to update it in my profile. I don't see a way to upgrade Safari Tech Preview for Catalina. I also don't see where I can update my OS. Usually it has an update link in my Mac but I don't see one.

Software Technology Preview updates are handled through the same update mechanism as the OS. In Ventura, you will find macOS and STP updates under System Settings > General > Software update just like in iOS and iPadOS. Prior to that it was found in System Preferences > Software Update, but I don't remember if that goes all the way back to Catalina. FWIW the current version of Software Technology Preview in Ventura is Release 162 (Safari 16.4, WebKit 18615.1.18.2).

See my post above this that has a picture of my disk utility. I need to pare it down or I cannot install Monterey it seems.

Originally Posted by joemikeb

Originally Posted by plantsower

I had already upgraded Firefox but didn't think to update it in my profile. I don't see a way to upgrade Safari Tech Preview for Catalina. I also don't see where I can update my OS. Usually it has an update link in my Mac but I don't see one.

Software Technology Preview updates are handled through the same update mechanism as the OS. In Ventura, you will find macOS and STP updates under System Settings > General > Software update just like in iOS and iPadOS. Prior to that it was found in System Preferences > Software Update, but I don't remember if that goes all the way back to Catalina. FWIW the current version of Software Technology Preview in Ventura is Release 162 (Safari 16.4, WebKit 18615.1.18.2).

Your "Get Info" screenshot <https://imgur.com/4bXvk0Z> shows that you've got only 17.5 GB of free space on your SSD, which is not enough to allow for an upgrade + headroom.

If you want to upgrade to Monterey, you'll have to clear space by either trashing or offloading data.

Yes, but I sent a picture of my Disk Utility above and asked what I could get rid of there. I never used to have so much stuff show up there. I don't know what the top one means either which includes the word media.. The Catalina one is my flash drive backup but one says Catalina data. I never used to have containers either. I just want to simplify it. I'm afraid to get rid of any of that and mess up my Mac. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by artie505

Your "Get Info" screenshot <https://imgur.com/4bXvk0Z> shows that you've got only 17.5 GB of free space on your SSD, which is not enough to allow for an upgrade + headroom.

If you want to upgrade to Monterey, you'll have to clear space by either trashing or offloading data.

Originally Posted by plantsower

Here's what happened twice. While d/l ing Monterey it got interrupted. But then I saw the Monterey icon on the dock. I clicked on it and it said to install. I tried that each time and that's when I got the message that I didn't have enough room. I knew it wasn't ready to install because it had only half downloaded. When my Mac shut down and came back up, I couldn't find the window that showed it was still downloading, just the icon on the dock. When I clicked on the software update, nothing happened like last time when it was actually downloading.

https://imgur.com/4bXvk0Z]SSD info

Monterey message

I don't know what to go from here as the software update button isn't working. Is there a way to see if it's downloading in the background?

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

[color:#3366FF]I went to install Monterey and it said I didn't have enough room on my SSD. I did have enough room on my Catalina Disk which I think is my thumb Drive that I use for SuperDuper which I named Catalina. I thought when we upgraded we just incorporated the new OS into our old one so it didn't take that much space. So, I guess I don't do it. Because if I do, I will have to constantly use my SD to use Monterey, right? Argh!

I dunno... That doesn't sound right, but maybe it is.

Please do a Get Info (command-I) on the icon for your internal drive on your desktop and post it.

Your first imgur.com link above is bad. It contains some of the coding from your color choices.

I suspect that most System upgrades retain the old System in place until the completely new one is verified; hence, the need for extra space. Your internal drive almost has enough available space. Can you do some house cleaning or temporary off-loading of items to make enough space?

I want to clean house but I don't know what I can get rid of that is showing on my
https://imgur.com/a/AgWTgNJ. Maybe they will help. I didn't used to have so much stuff on my disk utility that I didn't understand. Believe or not I named the link Disk Utility Pics but it just shows the url for some reason.

I suspect that most System upgrades retain the old System in place until the completely new one is verified; hence, the need for extra space. Your internal drive almost has enough available space. Can you do some house cleaning or temporary off-loading of items to make enough space? [/quote]

Apple's new APFS file system splits your drive into two parts, one of which is labeled "Data." That part, Container disk1/Apple SSD - Data, which contains 84 GB of "something" is what you need to concern yourself with. (The other part is untouchable.)

Under ordinary circumstances, pretty much all of the 84 GB in question will be the contents of your home folder.

You need to go through your folder and delete or offload as much as you can. (I've found Users/Rita/Downloads to be a prime repository for useless data.)

As Ira said, your SSD looks like it's got enough free space to accommodate the upgrade, but the problem may be that after you upgrade you won't have enough free space for Monterey to run "comfortably."

Originally Posted by artie505

Apple's new APFS file system splits your drive into two parts, one of which is labeled "Data." That part, Container disk1/Apple SSD - Data, which contains 84 GB of "something" is what you need to concern yourself with. (The other part is untouchable.) The Library has 84 folders which all look official. Nothing I put there. I've been tediously getting rid of a lot of downloads and a few documents. I also got rid of some music. It still says I have to get rid of 7+ more gigabytes. I really don't know where that would be. That's why I put up the pic of my Disk Utility to see if there is anything there that I could safely delete. I've been reading that I could get rid of user caches but I looked and there isn't that much. I don't think even a gigabyte. I already get rid of browser cache on a regular basis. I'll keep trying but it seems futile unless there is something big I'm not seeing that I can toss. I wish I I could toss apps I never use but Apple put there. They are untossable like "chess."
Under ordinary circumstances, pretty much all of the 84 GB in question will be the contents of your home folder.

You need to go through your folder and delete or offload as much as you can. (I've found Users/Rita/Downloads to be a prime repository for useless data.) I see things there but there are pics and other things I don't want to get rid of.

As Ira said, your SSD looks like it's got enough free space to accommodate the upgrade, but the problem may be that after you upgrade you won't have enough free space for Monterey to run "comfortably."

Originally Posted by plantsower

The Library has 84 folders which all look official. Nothing I put there. I've been tediously getting rid of a lot of downloads and a few documents. I also got rid of some music. It still says I have to get rid of 7+ more gigabytes. I really don't know where that would be. That's why I put up the pic of my Disk Utility to see if there is anything there that I could safely delete. I've been reading that I could get rid of user caches but I looked and there isn't that much. I don't think even a gigabyte. I already get rid of browser cache on a regular basis. I'll keep trying but it seems futile unless there is something big I'm not seeing that I can toss. I wish I I could toss apps I never use but Apple put there. They are untossable like "chess."

/Users/Rita/Library may have some trashable contents, but not enough to make it worth your while to go looking. (Hmmm... Take a look at /Users/Rita/Library/Mail Downloads)

Documents, Downloads, Movies, Music, and Pictures are where you're going to find your excess baggage.

I'd love to get rid of most of my Apple installed apps, but as you said, Apple doesn't allow it. I've tried every way know to man with no success. No I take that back: I did it once, but the process took so long, was so cumbersome, and needed to be redone with every macOS update, so I just bit the bullet.

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

The Library has 84 folders which all look official. Nothing I put there. I've been tediously getting rid of a lot of downloads and a few documents. I also got rid of some music. It still says I have to get rid of 7+ more gigabytes. I really don't know where that would be. That's why I put up the pic of my Disk Utility to see if there is anything there that I could safely delete. I've been reading that I could get rid of user caches but I looked and there isn't that much. I don't think even a gigabyte. I already get rid of browser cache on a regular basis. I'll keep trying but it seems futile unless there is something big I'm not seeing that I can toss. I wish I I could toss apps I never use but Apple put there. They are untossable like "chess."

/Users/Rita/Library may have some trashable contents, but not enough to make it worth your while to go looking. (Hmmm... Take a look at /Users/Rita/Library/Mail Downloads)

Documents, Downloads, Movies, Music, and Pictures are where you're going to find your excess baggage.

The only things I can get rid of (or that I want to get rid of) are some of the documents and downloads. I finished the music. There are no movies. Just a few family and pet pics. Some are easy, but some have to be clicked on to even know what they are. That's what's tiresome and boring. It took awhile then I stopped at the "e's". I'll pick up again tomorrow. Thanks, Artie. I guess there's nothing that shows up in my Disk Utility that I can ditch, right?

I'd love to get rid of most of my Apple installed apps, but as you said, Apple doesn't allow it. I've tried every way know to man with no success. No I take that back: I did it once, but the process took so long, was so cumbersome, and needed to be redone with every macOS update, so I just bit the bullet.

Originally Posted by plantsower

The only things I can get rid of (or that I want to get rid of) are some of the documents and downloads. I finished the music. There are no movies. Just a few family and pet pics. Some are easy, but some have to be clicked on to even know what they are. That's what's tiresome and boring. It took awhile then I stopped at the "e's". I'll pick up again tomorrow. Thanks, Artie. I guess there's nothing that shows up in my Disk Utility that I can ditch, right?

Disk Utility shows you your OS structure, not its contents. There's nothing you can see there that's a part of your problem.

I'm pretty sure you've got an external drive, so if you can't trash enough data to complete your Monterey upgrade, you'll have to park some stuff on it at least until you're done.

Hmmm... Take a look in your applications folder and see if you've got a Monterey installer (maybe "Install macOS Monterey"). If so, it's around 12 GB of your problem that can be overcome by moving it to your external, deleting it from your internal, and booting into and doing the installation from the clone on your external.

It would be ironic if the installer, itself, is preventing you from installing.

That would be ironic. I have enough room on my external, I just didn't want to do it that way. I may have to. But if that doesn't fix my calendar alert problem, I'll just go back to my internal drive.

It would be ironic if the installer, itself, is preventing you from installing. [/quote]

Originally Posted by plantsower

That would be ironic. I have enough room on my external, I just didn't want to do it that way. I may have to. But if that doesn't fix my calendar alert problem, I'll just go back to my internal drive.

It would be ironic if the installer, itself, is preventing you from installing.

You misunderstood me.

I wasn't suggesting that you upgrade your external clone to Monterey, rather I was suggesting that you boot from your clone, install "Install macOS Monterey," and use it to upgrade your internal SSD. (Be sure to delete "Install macOS Monterey" from your internal if it's there and to update your clone before you upgrade your internal.)

Oh!!! I'm not sure how to do that but I could try. I just opened my SSD icon and some stuff is grayed out and other stuff isn't. Anyway, I pulled up the desk top and found the Monterey install icon, but it said the same thing when I clicked on it. No room.

Originally Posted by artie505

Originally Posted by plantsower

That would be ironic. I have enough room on my external, I just didn't want to do it that way. I may have to. But if that doesn't fix my calendar alert problem, I'll just go back to my internal drive.

It would be ironic if the installer, itself, is preventing you from installing.

You misunderstood me.

I wasn't suggesting that you upgrade your external clone to Monterey, rather I was suggesting that you boot from your clone, install "Install macOS Monterey," and use it to upgrade your internal SSD. (Be sure to delete "Install macOS Monterey" from your internal if it's there and to update your clone before you upgrade your internal.)

Originally Posted by plantsower

Oh!!! I'm not sure how to do that but I could try. I just opened my SSD icon and some stuff is grayed out and other stuff isn't. Anyway, I pulled up the desk top and found the Monterey install icon, but it said the same thing when I clicked on it. No room.

Before we go any further...
1. I assume that "no room" pop-up was after you deleted whatever you could?
2. I'd like to see a pic of Disk Utility after you did your pruning. (Container disk1)
3. I'd like to see a pic of your open SSD icon with "some stuff greyed out...some not."

..
1. I assume that "no room" pop-up was after you deleted whatever you could?

Nope. I'm not done pruning.

2. I'd like to see a pic of Disk Utility after you did your pruning. (Container disk1)

[b]If I remember. It will be awhile.[/b]

3. I'd like to see a pic of your open SSD icon with "some stuff greyed out...some not." [/quote]
It wasn't the original SSD. It was the clone that showed some of the my home page grayed out. Clone Home Page Also, Catalina thumb drive clone

Wow, I've ever had so much trouble putting colors or boldness to letters here. I tried 3 times again.

Also, my Mac went out twice while typing this. I am going to check Costco to see if they have what I want in stock. 14" M2, low end. If so, I will drive there and get it. It's $50.00 cheaper than Apple.com and also gives a 2 free parts & labor and tech warranty. I can always call Apple tech anyway and come here for help. I have gotten Apple care with every Mac purchased and never needed it except for Tech support which I know now I can get anyway.

Originally Posted by plantsower

It wasn't the original SSD. It was the clone that showed some of the my home page grayed out. Clone Home Page Also, ]Catalina thumb drive clone[url=https://imgur.com/KikWJi9]

The file names of all those greyed out items are preceded by a "." (dot), which means that they're normally invisible but have somehow been made visible. Nothing to worry about.

Originally Posted by plantsower

...my Mac went out twice while typing this.

That changes things. I'll address it in your Migration Assistant thread.