I hope this gets to everyone that answered me. To clarify, when I click on an email to delete it, whether it's in the junk (goes straight to cyber space- I didn't know that) or from the inbox, it never ends up in the trash like it used to. Why else would there be a trashcan if I can't use it? It just disappears. It still ends up in Trash on Mavericks and then I just delete it from there.
Also, the fact that some of my drafts disappear and reappear after deleting them several times I consider a bug. I used Apple feedback to report it though it's been happening for years as I look at forums. If you don't give them feedback, they seem oblivious to the problems or just don't care. I don't think they fix anything until a vast amount of people complain via feedback. I would be embarrassed if I sent my product out to the public (assuming I had a product) and had to continually patch it up b/c I didn't test it thoroughly.
I also used to be able to delete mail from the trash by choosing Command-Shift-Delete in Mavericks and a few times in Sierra. That doesn't work anymore in Sierra (except now nothing ends up in trash in Sierra) but still works in Mavericks.
And while I'm on my rant, when reading posts here I have to scroll back and forth to see the whole line. Making text smaller doesn't fix it. This happened before but finally stopped. It's starting up again and is aggravating. I guess I need to take a chill pill. It's all these little things that add up and make me cranky!
I have my MBP set to delete trash after a week. I usually do it myself everyday, but lately I've noticed that there is never anything in the trash after I delete! Any ideas?
I'm also getting email I send ending up in my draft folder. It's also in my sent folder so I assume it's been sent. I've looked it up, but I don't see any viable solutions to this. There is no longer an option to leave or not leave it on the server in Sierra, so how can I avoid this? And no, I don't use Gmail.
I haven't had my Starbucks yet so I may not be clearly understanding your questions. I assume (at my peril) that both questions refer to actions taken in Mail. When you delete a message in Apple Mail whether its by selecting it and clicking on the Trash Can icon or swiping to the left and selecting Trash what happens to the message depends on what Mailbox the message is in when you delete it and the Mailbox behaviors setting
for the specific account. Assuming the normal default settings…
- If it is in the Inbox, Archives, or Drafts/Sent it goes to the Trash.
- If it is in Trash or Junk it goes into the great bit-bucket in the sky (i.e.. it is erased)
- Note: you can change the target mail box for almost every action in Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Mailbox Behaviors to suit your personal desires.
I have observed that although deleted messages disappear almost instantly from the Mail mailbox there is often a lag between its disappearance there and the files actual deletion on the IMAP server which can make it appear a message somehow undeleted itself. It should eventually disappear from the IMAP serve but that may take anywhere from a few seconds to even a few hours.
As to not leaving sent mail on the server in Mail > Settings > Mailbox Behaviors you can set the target mailbox for sent messages and one of the options is Trash. I haven't tried it, but you might be able to create a Sent mailbox "On My Mac" and choose that as the target for sent messages. Remember those settings are on an account by account basis so you have to set it for each account individually.