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Posted By: grelber Pug marks - 03/06/18 08:03 AM
Speaking of running around in the woods ...

Check out:

Canine vs Feline Tracks
The PowerPoint presentation (60 slides, 73.3MB) referenced is an excellent short course in IDing pug marks.

Distinguishing Cougar, Coyote and Bobcat Tracks
Posted By: ryck Re: Pug marks - 03/07/18 04:06 PM
Good to know. Our area has periodic "cougar sightings", although I'm in the woods at least twice a day with my dog and have never seen one. The odd black bear, coyotes for sure, and deer often but a cougar, not yet. However, that could be the cougar's plan.

I recall an event from about five years ago, when we lived on Vancouver Island, and on the north end of the island a cougar attacked a 72 year-old man. He battled it and killed it with his knife. I remember thinking "What a tough old bird that guy is" and I assumed he carried a hunting knife.

Then I wondered about my situation, as I carry a Swiss Army Knife. A friend suggested that, in the excitement of an attack I'd probably whip out the spoon.....and the next scene would be the cougar using the spoon.
Posted By: grelber Re: Pug marks - 03/07/18 04:31 PM
Originally Posted By: ryck
Good to know. Our area has periodic "cougar sightings", although I'm in the woods at least twice a day with my dog and have never seen one. The odd black bear, coyotes for sure, and deer often but a cougar, not yet. However, that could be the cougar's plan.

Then I wondered about my situation, as I carry a Swiss Army Knife. A friend suggested that, in the excitement of an attack I'd probably whip out the spoon.....and the next scene would be the cougar using the spoon.


Then you'd best sharpen the spoon. tongue

Speaking of cougar's plans ...
Bernd Heinrich (in Mind of the Raven — one of the best accounts on corvids that I have ever read) recounts being snow-bound in a remote New England cabin only to have a raven (which may have had a 'grievance' with him) guide a cougar to said cabin — ostensibly to have dibs on the remains. Heinrich was not especially amused.
Posted By: Virtual1 Re: Pug marks - 03/08/18 05:25 PM
Originally Posted By: ryck
Good to know. Our area has periodic "cougar sightings", although I'm in the woods at least twice a day with my dog and have never seen one. The odd black bear, coyotes for sure, and deer often but a cougar, not yet. However, that could be the cougar's plan.


It is indeed. Any (big or small) cat prefers to stalk from behind and attack from behind. Running away from them creates an irresistible target. So if you encounter a mountain lion, you should face it and slowly back away. Loud noises are usually effective against any larger predator such as mountain lions or even bears, so yell loudly at it while you back away. The yelling alone may cause it to depart.

So if the cat has done its job right, you won't see (or hear) it until you've been knocked to the ground. It's not looking good for you at that point though.

Cougar sightings seem to be more common in borderline urban areas, where people see them on their property from inside their house. I'd call that the best way to sight a cougar. (unless you just put out the dog)
Posted By: grelber Re: Pug marks - 03/08/18 05:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
So if the cat has done its job right, you won't see (or hear) it until you've been knocked to the ground. It's not looking good for you at that point though.

Chances are that you will only know for a second or two that you've been knocked to the ground. The vibrissae (whiskers) and canine ("killing") teeth in a felid are exquisitely innervated to enable an effective killing bite to the cervical spine.
Lights out. Feeding begins.
Posted By: ryck Re: Pug marks - 03/29/18 04:01 PM
Originally Posted By: Virtual1
Any (big or small) cat prefers to stalk from behind and attack from behind. Running away from them creates an irresistible target. So if you encounter a mountain lion, you should face it and slowly back away.

Unless you're a teed-off Granny.
Posted By: grelber Re: Pug marks - 03/29/18 04:40 PM
Originally Posted By: ryck
Unless you're a teed-off Granny.

Perhaps a good training exercise for a sub-adult cougar.
And the roommate's gotta be dumb as a stump and/or deaf.
Posted By: ryck Re: Pug marks - 03/29/18 05:29 PM
Originally Posted By: grelber
And the roommate's gotta be dumb as a stump and/or deaf.

No argument there.
Posted By: Virtual1 Re: Pug marks - 04/03/18 07:35 PM
Originally Posted By: ryck
Unless you're a teed-off Granny.


oh I thought you meant THIS teed off granny!

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