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Numbers the red dot.
#48707 04/28/18 08:13 PM
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Just started using Numbers. I notice that the black dot upper left you see in many apps that indicates file is not save never comes. Is it auto saving?

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kevs #48718 04/29/18 04:01 PM
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Auto Save (since OS X Lion for applications that are build to support this with Apple’s tech) saves during pauses in your work and, if you work continuously, it will save after 5 minutes. It saves in the background, so you can work without the distraction of having to remember to save, or being interrupted by progress bars.
It works with Versions, so you can go back to previously saved states.
It also mean you have to think ahead: Unlike other applications, you can’t open a document, edit it, and save it as a new document. You have to start with a copy to keep the original intact.

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Urquhart #48729 04/29/18 06:57 PM
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Thanks U,
So I'll see the normal black dot in upper left? I'm alwalys looking for that with Excel.

What is versions? How does one use it? But you can do a save before it auto saves?

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kevs #48731 04/29/18 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: kevs
So I'll see the normal black dot in upper left?

No, not for these Auto Save apps. You’ll see “ — Edited” in gray next to the document name in the top center of the window.

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What is versions? How does one use it? But you can do a save before it auto saves?

In menu File > Revert to > Browse All Versions, you can flip through all* saved previous versions, and pick one to revert to.
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25757

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Urquhart #48732 04/29/18 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: Urquhart
In menu File > Revert to > Browse All Versions, you can flip through all* saved previous versions, and pick one to revert to.
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25757

Thanks for that!


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artie505 #48733 04/29/18 09:30 PM
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thanks U, but versions are stacked on top of each other, I clicked arrow on side but ones below are just blank.

And you can save quickly if you want I think.

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kevs #48735 04/29/18 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: kevs
thanks U, but versions are stacked on top of each other, I clicked arrow on side but ones below are just blank.

If you look carefully in the center of the blank pages you will see a pale grey icon of a cloud with a descending arrow. Click on that and the empty page will be populated.


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joemikeb #48738 04/30/18 08:39 PM
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Thanks Joe, don't see that at all in center, do you have screenshot?

Amazing, just like Time Machine design.. except using icloud I guess.

Wonder why Microsoft Office does not have an auto save... why not been copied yet.

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kevs #48739 04/30/18 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: kevs
Thanks Joe, don't see that at all in center, do you have screenshot?

You may have to zoom in to see this image.

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Amazing, just like Time Machine design.. except using icloud I guess.

And eventually some advanced features of APFS.

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Wonder why Microsoft Office does not have an auto save... why not been copied yet.

There is a lot of stuff in MacOS, necessary to make this happen. I don't know if Microsoft Office for Mac is Cocoa (Object Oriented) or Carbon (Procedural) code but from past history with Microsoft and its products, I would guess it is Carbon as that would b easiest to port from Windows. If that is correct, it means Microsoft would have to write a LOT more lines of complex code to make that happen in their product.


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joemikeb #48740 04/30/18 11:58 PM
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Thanks Joe, ok I did a test with Text Edit and the arrows on the right did work, which was cool to see; though they did not work with Numbers. Your screenshot "load version" did work with Numbers, but I had to click one of up/ down arrows to get it going.


What is APSF?

Ok So Microsoft can't copy everything! (That's Samsung's job!)

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kevs #48746 05/01/18 01:13 PM
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What is APSF?

APSF is my dyslexia kicking in when I was writing APFS.


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