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Invalid node structure on external drive
#20729 02/19/12 03:48 PM
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I was running Super Duper to clone my Mac's internal drive to an external hard drive when it stopped and gave a red error message.

I ran Disk Utility's Repair Disk and got the message that the external drive had an invalid node structure (it made a noise that is reproducable). This external Firewire drive is my only backup. It is a Seagate in an OWC enclosure.

Any ideas on how to fix this drive? It rarely gets used except on monthly backups. (My Mac's internal drive checks out OK).

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deniro #20734 02/19/12 07:30 PM
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My best guess is that the drive has failed. Seagate has had a bad reputation for quite awhile. See if any of the sounds available here are similar.


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jchuzi #20746 02/20/12 10:49 PM
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I'm thinking about going with OWC. Can I boot from a OWC Mercury On The Go Firewire drive? I googled and it looks like there are problems. I know nothing about their reliability and would welcome any suggestions regarding buying an external drive I can boot from.

I've got 60 GB of my 120 GB imac internal drive used, so I don't need a big drive for backup. I use Super Duper to clone the internal drive.

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deniro #20747 02/21/12 12:08 AM
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You don't have to buy a whole setup; get a new drive and put it into the existing enclosure after removing the Seagate. FWIW, I have had good luck with Hitachi drives but Western Digital has a fine reputation also. OWC is a very reliable company so it would be worthwhile to phone them for advice. I have found their tech support to be excellent.


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deniro #20769 02/21/12 07:03 PM
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invalid node structure is one of those things that requires stronger tools like diskwarrior to fix. and I have yet to see diskutil succeed when it says it's 'rebuilding catalog b-tree".


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Virtual1 #20773 02/21/12 08:41 PM
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Hopefully, you're right about Disk Warrior. The peculiar sounds from the drive seem to be ominous, however.


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jchuzi #20787 02/22/12 04:48 PM
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even if it can't fix it, it will probably be able to preview it for recovery. I use this frequently.

dw will say that it can't replace the directory because of a mechanical failure, instead of attempting to write to an already malfunctioning drive. Which is a good thing.


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Virtual1 #20801 02/23/12 12:03 AM
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Well, for the price of Disk Warrior I can get a new drive.

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deniro #20805 02/23/12 10:10 AM
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If I were you, I would do both. Even if DW can repair the problem, the noises from the drive don't exactly inspire confidence. I have had DW for many years and it has gotten me out of a few jams. As far as I'm concerned, it is an indispensable part of my arsenal. Disk Utility is fine, mostly, but sometimes you need an industrial strength utility.


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Re: Invalid node structure on external drive
jchuzi #20821 02/24/12 05:08 PM
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I settled on an OWC On the Go drive.

My only question now is, with Disk Utility, do I initialize the external FireWire drive as Apple Extended (journaled) or GUID, keeping in mind I have an Intel Mac.

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deniro #20822 02/24/12 05:15 PM
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You want GUID, which should also include Mac OS Extended (journaled).


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deniro #20827 02/25/12 01:54 AM
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GUID is the partition table type and is the preferred type for OS X. Mac OS Extended is the format and [u](Journaled) is an option that keeps track of changes to the file system and makes recovery quicker and easier. Journaling is also used by OS X to facilitate Spotlight and Time Machine. Your disk should have a GUID partition table and be formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled).


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