The Secrets of Dirty Money
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This is a first rate site, with links to everything you could want to know about the Panama Papers. Oh, you may want to pour yourself a coffee before you start.
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Filthy lucre. Num num. Gots ta git me some.
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About two years ago, a whistleblower had already sold internal Mossack Fonseca data to the German authorities, but the dataset was much older and smaller in scope: while it addressed a few hundred offshore companies, the Panama Papers provide data on some 214,000 companies. In the wake of the data purchase, last year investigators searched the homes and offices of about 100 people. The Commerzbank was also raided. As a consequence of their business dealings with Mossack Fonseca, Commerzbank, HSH Nordbank, and Hypovereinsbank agreed to pay fines of around 20 million euros, respectively. Since then, other countries have also acquired data from the initial smaller leak, among them the United States, the UK, and Iceland. Seems there are pretty high failure rates when it comes to prosecuting banks: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/magazine/only-one-top-banker-jail-financial-crisis.html
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Of course there is a high failure rate it prosecuting banks - They have more and better lawyers than any government
- The banks own enough legislators to stifle any concerted government effort to regulate them
- As most politicians will tell you banks are too big to regulate
- Everyone knows banks are too big to fail
If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?
— Albert Einstein
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Everyone knows banks are too big to fail We sure saw that — along with other investment entities — in 2008. Only one individual was ever prosecuted in that debacle (given the other 3 observations in your list), and even then it was for trivial vs substantive reasons. Aside: The Big Short is chock-full of almost-easy-to-understand financial explication (for those of us who have limited familiarity with the issues). Plus it's a good movie.
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Seems there are pretty high failure rates when it comes to prosecuting banks: Of course there is a high failure rate it prosecuting banks - They have more and better lawyers than any government
- The banks own enough legislators to stifle any concerted government effort to regulate them
What you say is true but the banks are just a few of the players in the nearly quarter million companies involved. The bulk of those "companies" are shells used by wealthy individuals and corporations to avoid paying their share of the tax load. They are abetted by a phalanx of tax lawyers and accountants. When that happens, the rest of us are left to pick up the slack with higher personal taxes. The Panama Papers, IMHO, are an example of leakers working in the common good and, quite frankly, I hope that any resulting investigations motivate them to do more. It's about time the cover was pulled from the activities of some in the "One Percent".
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What you say is true but the banks are just a few of the players in the nearly quarter million companies involved. The bulk of those "companies" are shells used by wealthy individuals and corporations to avoid paying their share of the tax load. They are abetted by a phalanx of tax lawyers and accountants.
When that happens, the rest of us are left to pick up the slack with higher personal taxes.
The Panama Papers, IMHO, are an example of leakers working in the common good and, quite frankly, I hope that any resulting investigations motivate them to do more. It's about time the cover was pulled from the activities of some in the "One Percent". No argument. Perhaps I should have used the term financial industry instead of limiting my statement to banks.
If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?
— Albert Einstein
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Confidential details of more than 200,000 offshore accounts in the Panama Papers will be revealed tomorrow in a searchable database. The comment of a reader at another site put this kind of massive tax evasion into perspective: "That gleaming white yacht anchored off Monaco is the children's hospital that didn't get built in your town."
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